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Offline pianosfun

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Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
« on: January 14, 2014, 01:14:40 AM »
Hello. I'm sure that many of you are already aware of this, but Daniil Trifonov performed the 3rd Rachmaninoff concerto last year in March I think. I haven't watched it, but it looks great. At the very end he's smiling like he always does and gives it all he's got.





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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 01:16:31 AM »
I haven't watched it, but it looks great.

If you haven't watched it, how can you tell?  ::)
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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 01:45:32 AM »
If you haven't watched it, how can you tell?  ::)


Hahaha, you never fail to come up with something like that... It does help to narrow down a post to what it really is...

 I watched about 3 minutes of the beginning, then went straight to the end where the piano and entire orchestra share the same melody.

Haha, this is sort of a hype. I really appreciate Trifonov's playing, but the fact that he played the Rach 3 recently (Finally -(just joking, haha)-) is something to talk about especially.
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The encore pieces sound really good also. It's neat how he has that much earnestness to produce such good music.
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What I meant by the "Just joking" sentence is that Trifonov produces genuine music nearly every moment he plays the instrument. There are many things that he has accomplished that deserve much greater recognition than learning the Rach 3. I was using him learning the Rach 3 as a subject for humorous hype, which now I realize might be dangerous for music's sake.

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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 02:23:34 AM »
the fact that he played the Rach 3 recently (Finally -(just joking, haha)-) is something to talk about especially.

Really? It seems to be flavour of the month of late. Every man, woman and small squirrel seems to have it on their concert list.  I can't believe they all really believe they have something interesting to say about it, and yet there are so many other great concerti out there languishing in obscurity.
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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 02:43:31 AM »
Really? It seems to be flavour of the month of late. Every man, woman and small squirrel seems to have it on their concert list.  I can't believe they all really believe they have something interesting to say about it, and yet there are so many other great concerti out there languishing in obscurity.

Hmmm, that true. Maybe I should cut all the hype out. It is that hype associated with looks and such that is partly responsible for the tragedy. It also obscures what is true music and what is other stuff to observers. So not much more hype regarding music...

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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 08:04:35 AM »
Every man, woman and small squirrel seems to have it on their concert list. 

I would be inclined to listen to it again if it were played by a small squirrel, but that is about the only way that would convince me to listen to it for about the 200th time.

Nobody has anything new to offer, it has all been done before and probably better.

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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 01:15:53 PM »
He played it in Helsinki before x-mas and I watched it live on TV. He certainly sweat a lot!

For some reason I preferred his encore (Medtner's Fairy Tale a minor)...I guess I just am not such a big fan of Rach...

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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 09:08:57 PM »
Hmmm, that true. Maybe I should cut all the hype out. It is that hype associated with looks and such that is partly responsible for the tragedy. It also obscures what is true music and what is other stuff to observers. So not much more hype regarding music...
Very true indeed. I'm fed up with this rach 3. Wangs, Langs, chokotofs, everyone needs to do it.
At home I have a 3000 pages book with all the pianomusic there is explained.
I think not 1 % is played in concerts. Perhaps, here and there on obscure labels, exception for cpo, and some others.
But, look at their repertoire. You're right. Medtner is a newcomer, 1.
It is very poor in classics today. Beethoven all over.
It might mean the end for classical music one day. Thanks to the marketeers.
Popmusic reinvents itself every time. There is an enormous potential of unknown works that could serve the same cause as pop, that is, CHANGE.
Thanks pianosfun for your remark.

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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 10:43:23 PM »
Medtner is a newcomer

Since he's been dead for 60 odd years, he's left his start a bit late.
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Re: Daniil Trifonov Rach 3
«Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 11:36:05 PM »
I had the privilege of seeing Daniil in an intimate setting (The Chopin Society of MN).  I sat on the stage very near to him.  His playing was/is exquisite, and his intensity is palpable.  He quite obviously loves everything about his instrument and it shows.

He's one of my favorite artists of the day.  As is Alessio Bax.