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Offline vladimir_gouldowsky

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How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
on: February 28, 2014, 10:29:50 PM
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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 10:33:53 PM
I'm almost certain you're kidding about this...

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 02:23:49 AM
HAHA good one, but the Revolting Etude is much more harder.

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #3 on: March 01, 2014, 01:14:41 PM
HAHA good one, but the Revolting Etude is much more harder.

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only much more harder if you have not yet mastered the Butterfinger 'not-white' key one.

Offline thorn

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #4 on: March 01, 2014, 01:43:13 PM
The Sorabji Transsexual Etudes are the most difficult songs. My friend plays all of them, do you think she can audition for a music college yet?

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #5 on: March 01, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
You guys are impossible.  I think he was probably serious about his balaika question.  Well, maybe he deserved this...

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #6 on: March 01, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
I think what everyone is trying to get at is that you need to play Beethoven's Pathetic song before you play Balalaika.  Remember that you should play all three sonatas in the Pathetic movement.  Don't forget to say it is in Sea Minor in your program notes. 


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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #7 on: March 01, 2014, 09:57:07 PM
OMG you guys are terrible! I can't stop laughing!

..unfortunately I'm not witty enough to come up with one.

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #8 on: March 01, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
  I've played the first part of Moonshine Sonata ....

Here in the US, the Moonshine Sonata  is the hardest piece ever written for Banjo. dont know if there is a transcription for the Balalaika but I am sure someone must have tried.

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 05:09:38 PM
It's even harder than the Hungarian Raspberries!
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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #10 on: March 02, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
It's even harder than the Hungarian Raspberries!
But is it as hard as the right offspring?

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #11 on: March 02, 2014, 08:24:31 PM
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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #12 on: March 02, 2014, 11:06:03 PM
ok, you got me, this was a little bit funny

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #13 on: March 03, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
It's even harder than the Hungarian Raspberries!
And the Glenn Gould "Gouldberg Variations"!

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #14 on: March 03, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
I apologise for my poor English (I am in China). Thank you for patience.
I found acrobat of the Islamey from a webzone. I have a question about my fingers. Please see what is uploaded.
Logic is that forte should be played with thumb because my thumb is powerful. Quieter version is to be played with 5th finger since this is a weak hand part. But this I cannot play with speed.
Is this a good finger? Thank you.

Seems fine to me.

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #15 on: March 03, 2014, 11:57:08 PM
Seems fine to me.




EDIT: You fixed it as I posted!  :P
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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #16 on: March 04, 2014, 12:17:16 AM
Seems fine to me.



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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #17 on: March 04, 2014, 04:20:03 AM

Is this a good finger? Thank you.

If your fingers are THAT short, maybe it's better to play bar rock music, instead of getting into romantic affairs.

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #18 on: March 04, 2014, 04:50:59 AM
By rock music do you mean 'the maple leaf rock' of janis joplin?

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Re: How hard is 'Balalaika - an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #19 on: March 04, 2014, 04:58:21 AM
By rock music do you mean 'the maple leaf rock' of janis joplin?

No, I meant Bar Rock music...composers like Dominican Sandalettes.

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #20 on: March 06, 2014, 07:31:11 AM
... wait until you get hard on Beethoven's Erotica Variations

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #21 on: March 06, 2014, 08:08:49 AM
Beethoven's Diabolical Variations are even harder...

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #22 on: March 06, 2014, 10:03:56 AM
Rachmaninoff's Vindication on a Thawed Panini is very hard.  It is also good practice for Balalaika.
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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #23 on: March 06, 2014, 12:56:19 PM
I think this is one of the most divertente threads, yet.

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #24 on: March 06, 2014, 05:43:24 PM
I'm open to try more terrible fingerings.
edit: gouldowsky's fingerings are gone!

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #25 on: March 06, 2014, 06:04:21 PM
Rachmaninoff's Vindication on a Thawed Panini is very hard.
Never heard of this one; I know of the same composer's Variegation on a Thieved Panini, though.

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #26 on: March 07, 2014, 04:27:40 AM
Don't you just love people who edit their posts and threads after they have been answered extensively  ;)

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #27 on: March 07, 2014, 05:03:34 AM
How hard is  an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?

Assuming that you mean the work by Mily Alexeyevich Balakirev: it's only available either as loose sheets or in paperback bundles; I have never seen any leather-bound or hardcover versions.
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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #28 on: March 07, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
Quote from: dima_76557link=topic=54542.msg589132#msg589132 date=1394168614
Assuming that you mean the work by Mily Alexeyevich Balakirev: it's only available either as loose sheets or in paperback bundles; I have never seen any leather-bound or hardcover versions.

this was a post by the original poster of thread:
I apologise for my poor English (I am in China). Thank you for patience.
I found acrobat of the Islamey from a webzone. I have a question about my fingers. Please see what is uploaded.
Logic is that forte should be played with thumb because my thumb is powerful. Quieter version is to be played with 5th finger since this is a weak hand part. But this I cannot play with speed.
Is this a good finger? Thank you.

on img of score he uploaded, he wrote in fingerings 111111111111 555555555555 as demonstrated in video.

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #29 on: March 07, 2014, 07:42:59 AM
this was a post by the original poster of thread:
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I found acrobat of the Islamey from a webzone.

Thank you for clarifying,  swagmaster420x. I believe that in English, they call such a digital document a "soft copy". It becomes "hard" as soon as it gets printed out.
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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #30 on: March 07, 2014, 09:52:16 AM
Quote from: dima_76557link=topic=54542.msg589152#msg589152 date=1394178179


Thank you for clarifying,  swagmaster420x. I believe that in English, they call such a digital document a "soft copy". It becomes "hard" as soon as it gets printed out.
yea, he was being humorous lol

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Re: How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?
Reply #31 on: March 07, 2014, 01:02:09 PM
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How hard is an oriental fantasia' by Islamey?

Well, the oriental fantasies that Islamey wrote are not very difficult, generally speaking, excepth the forth one... That's a really difficult, bitchy piece to play  :P
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