I think u are talking to the wrong person.
As long as this person understands how sarcastic I am in this case--this is the right person.
Just so you all know, here are some facts "the man" doesn't want you to know:Yundi Li was the second shooter on the grassy knoll. Lang Lang tried to stop him, but didn't get there in time. Also, it was Yundi Li who told Pres. Bush that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Lang Lang tried to convince the president not to go to war, but Yundi's influence was too strong. Finally, we're not sure at this point just how exactly Yundi Li is causing global warming, but rest assured that Lang Lang will get to the bottom of it. Last I heard, Yundi Li was hanging out with Osama bin Laden in an unknown Middle Eastern cave, burning americans flags and calling Lang Lang a "girly man". The time will come when they meet in an epic piano battle that will decide the fate of the very universe.conspiracy?.........what conspiracy?..........
The time will come when they meet in an epic piano battle that will decide the fate of the very universe.
Yundi Li's ascendancy has been stratospheric. His first instrument as a child in China was the piano accordeon and he rapidly moved on to the piano. In 2000, when he was 18, he won the Chopin Competition in Warsaw and from then on a glittering international career seems assured. I have listened to two of his recordings, the Liszt CD and more recently his recording of the Chopin Scherzi and Impromtus. I adored his Liszt recording and in particular his reading of the B minor sonata which was a magnificently moving performance. However, I was disappointed with the Chopin CD. The playing the was brilliant and immaculate technically, but I was left unmoved. After the pianistic glory of the Liszt I found the Chopin lacking in "soul" and even the sound quality was the cold, steely perfection of a studio recorded Steinway D grand. The re-creation of Chopin is surely the pursuit of pianistic poetry, not technical dazzle.Thank you,Robert.
Each of us has the right to express our honest and considered opinion on this pianist. In musical performance there are inevitably changes as an artist develops. I believe that I have every right to make a judgement on two very different CDs just as any other person posting on this topic has. My other point is that "pianistic poetry" has nothing to do with effete or "unmanly" emotion. Poetry can range from the noble and heroic to the most tender and delicate. It in no way equates to simplistic notions of sexist stereotyping. If you really want to discover what I mean by "soul" in Chopin, listen to the great interpretations by Maurizio Pollini. Kind regards,Robert.
it is amazing that possibly the two newest, most celebrated pianists in the world are from China: Lang Lang and Yundi Li.Kind regards,Robert.
These four scherzi has nothing to do with romance. You can play them as fast as you like
Tibidi u feckin LEGEND!!! an invitaion is in ordah: https://www.dasdc.net/forum/index.php
I don't understand you.
Can not say too much about this fight.But what interests me is that I found a large number of Li and LL 's fans are soblind that they will not allow any negative opinions, and keeping attacking otherswith no technical analysis.
Yundi's music
Since when has it become anyone's music but the composer's? And why do pianists and other classical musicians need "fans"?
Under Lang Lang's fingers, you hear robot playing, but under another pianist's fingers, music is very much alive. So you have what you call Lang Lang's music.There are fan clubs of Yundi in Korea and Japan with a few thousand of fans in each club but fans of Yundi are not active in cyberspace at all except me. Although you don't hear of Lang Lang's fan club, but fans of Lang Lang are everywhere, every corner, some even tried to get close to Yundi, horrible!
We don't have hidden agendas to try to help LL take over the planet, nor do we have any conspiracy to stifle Li's popularity.
How do we know if you have any hidden agendas or not, but we hate to see all kinds of lies about other musicians.
Lies?!?!?! We're talking about PERSONAL OPINIONS!!! You seem to think that if anybody PERSONALLY LIKES something by Lang Lang, that they are conspiring to give LL more press and to bring Li down. Or if somebody PERSONALLY DISLIKES something by Li, you accuse them of the same. You honestly come off like a freaking lunatic. This is a forum to discuss piano, piano playing, piano teaching, and piano players. It is ridiculous for you to throw these accusations around just because somebody says something in support of LL or expresses a dislike of Li. I haven't even said anything about either pianist, yet your response still takes the tone of suspicion: "How do we know if you have any hidden agendas or not?" It's quite insulting to everyone on this forum for you to assume that any opinions countering your own are part of a conspiracy theory. Hell, I didn't even give an opinion on the artists at hand (LL and Li), yet just for pointing out your negative attitude, you question my own agenda, as though I'm part of some online conspiracy to stifle Li's popularity and promote LL's. Two words: GROW UP!!!
You can certainly mislead people into believing that I am a freaking lunatic
I think he gets better with every CD he makes.yoursMaja
tibidi, do you know Maja81 also posted this:https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5403.msg66371.html#msg66371How is that possible???
tibidi, after skimming through this entire thread, i can conclusively say that you are out of your mind. Anybody who says anything praiseful of LL or critical of Li gets accused, by you, of being a LL fan trying to "mislead" people. However, when somebody points out that you do this, your response is to then call THAT person a LL fan trying to "mislead" people. It seems that the only person trying to sway people one way or the other in this thread is you. Your entire intention on this thread seems to be to put down LL and to promote Li, and it seems you cannot accept the fact that most of us just want to listen to music and only critique pianists based on our own opinions of the music we've heard. We don't have hidden agendas to try to help LL take over the planet, nor do we have any conspiracy to stifle Li's popularity. If we like something we've heard of LL, or if we dislike something we've heard of Li, we should be able to post our feelings without being accused of participating in some conspiracy theory.
Why do you people have to answer for aquariuswb? I have no interest to have any exchange with anyone who might have been one of those people who had flooded my email box with virus attachments. Even now, whenever I clicked to the website dedicated to Yundi, my computer will hang up and my conputer started to have problem. That is why I have deleted that website from my favourite list. You know what that website had done to me before? Whenever I clicked to open that site, there was a very nasty message shown on my conmputer screen, sometimes there was pornographic pictures popping up on my computer screen whenever I clicked to open that site. Doesn't that show that the site dedicated to Yundi is actually controlled by people who are not Yundi's fans? These people have all disappeared from that site and not a single soul is dropping any post there any more. I do know why.
Why do you people have to answer for aquariuswb? I have no interest to have any exchange with anyone who might have been one of those people who had flooded my email box with virus attachments. Even now, whenever I clicked to the website dedicated to Yundi, my computer will hang up and my conputer started to have problem. That is why I have deleted that website from my favourite list. You know what that website had done to me before? Whenever I clicked to open that site, there was a very nasty message shown on my conmputer screen, sometimes there was pornographic pictures popping up on my computer screen whenever I clicked to open that site. Doesn't that show that the site dedicated to Yundi is actually controlled by people who are not Yundi's fans?
Could it be that you are antagonizing people? Like those on this forum? Just a thought.
Besides talking about money, Lang Lang had also compared himself with Yundi in an absurd manner. Again, Yundi cannot be compared with him at all. This interview was published in a full page of a Malaysia major newspaper Nanyang Sian Pau just a few months before Yundi was supposed to perform there. Poor Yundi, he didn’t even have a slightest news coverage for him before and after his performance there. There was absolutely no news coverage for Yundi at all. Has Yundi’s agent really neglected the importance of publicity for Yundi or is there some other reason? If his agent had neglected publicity for Yundi, Yundi ought to get a beter agent for the Asia region.
Actually, in Malaysia and the surrounding region, most people don't listen to either that much. But... I know at least two others who are insane about Yundi and I don't know anyone who likes LL. In fact, YL didn't need publicity. His concert there was packed.Tibidi, I certainly agree that YL is better and many have said the same in this thread. However, you have continued to fling "misleading" and "agenda" around at unsuspecting civilians as if you were some politician . Stop. Take a deep breath. Now, you seem to be mixing this site and some other site up. And you really sound tense. How do you play the piano when you're so... tense?
What is considered as antagonizing by you? Have I antagonized people here or have I just tried to put thing in a more correct perspective? Why are people here so fond of misleading other people?
like the one above from Galonia, because you couldn't even click on the presented link.
Now, let us get one thing right at a time, what do you mean by clicking on the presented link? What was Galonia trying to say?
You have reminded me of someone who used to pretend to support Yundi for the past few years and I was stupid enough to have believed that the support was genuine. Others could only fooled me for one year but this person managed to fool me for three years. These people just swarmed to the sites dedicated to Yundi pretending that they are fans of Yundi and I was foolish enough to have believed them for about one year. When they attacked Yundi’s music, I didn’t suspect anything, when they ganged up to scould me and isolated me, I didn’t suspect anything. It was only after the website master started to advertise Lang Lang using the site dedicated to Yundi , then I began to realize that these people are fans of Lang Lang. I had used to wonder why these people were so unkind towards me who had shown so much appreciation for Yundi’s music. So the picture is clear, they are all fans of lang Lang pretending to support Yundi. There has been some new development recently, but I am not stupid again to believe what had happened by judging on the surface only. There is no need for me to say anything more regarding the new development. If you are not the person I think you are, just don’t yell back, ok?
Have I been blocked?
Do I really have to explain this? Maja81 had a praising post about YL to which you responded. But Galonia pointed out that Maja81 also had a favorable post about LL, posted the link to that message, and wanted to know "how that is possible?" You only had a derogatory response to that, because you apparently couldn't follow that link. But more importantly, you immediately presented your standard accusation about the "hahaha", which wasn't even from Galonia, but from Brewtality, who obviously understood the irony.All this shows that you should indeed relax a bit more and should be a lot more careful with your accusations. First, make sure you direct them at the right people and second, make sure they are justified. All this is so childish (that I even have to point it out). I've said enough! Please make this thread go away.
But Galonia pointed out that Maja81 also had a favorable post about LL, posted the link to that message, and wanted to know "how that is possible?"
Could xvimbi point point out where exactly Galonia had written that for me? If there is no more reply from xvimbi, I shall come here less often unless it is absolutely necessary.
I think I better post less in future.