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Offline cabbynum

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Schubert wanderer Fantasy
on: May 20, 2014, 05:10:38 AM
So I've recently started this piece. And I just got the Henle edition in today. Before I had used a different score from IMSLP
There are a few differences between the two, minor things. A sharper note here and not a sharper note here
A tide note here a not tied note there.
So my question is should I trust the henle urtext?
Or what? Because I also hear differences in different performances.

Also if anyone has any tips and or warnings that would be great as well!
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Re: Schubert wanderer Fantasy
Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 05:21:44 AM
should I trust the henle urtext?

You'll be burnt at the stake for even asking!!  :o

Seriously,  there are two editions on IMSLP, either go for two out of three or, better still, trust your ears. Oh, and read the footnotes in Henle, they may sway you (or not).

On tips - if Schubert is to be believed, having horns and a tail will help.
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Re: Schubert wanderer Fantasy
Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 05:34:23 AM
You'll be burnt at the stake for even asking!!  :o

Seriously,  there are two editions on IMSLP, either go for two out of three or, better still, trust your ears. Oh, and read the footnotes in Henle, they may sway you (or not).

On tips - if Schubert is to be believed, having horns and a tail will help.

But I haven't heard 2 the same yet!!!! Arghhhh.... One is easier than the other... Only slightly though. D natural is easier than D# in this one case.

There are no footnotes in my henle...

If you ask the townspeople I believe I already fit that description
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Re: Schubert wanderer Fantasy
Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 05:56:26 AM
There are no footnotes in my henle...

Then add one in yourself. Just where it says Urtext on the cover. Note reads "Not actually Urtext, we just thought it sounded better and we could charge more".

If you ask the townspeople I believe I already fit that description

Then you have a head start.
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Re: Schubert wanderer Fantasy
Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 06:03:14 AM
Then add one in yourself. Just where it says Urtext on the cover. Note reads "Not actually Urtext, we just thought it sounded better and we could charge more".

Then you have a head start.

It was a lot cheaper than most henles I've bought.
I think like 12 bucks. Hmm I'll find another edition
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Re: Schubert wanderer Fantasy
Reply #5 on: May 20, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
Hmm I'll find another edition

Then you'll have four choices to choose from. I don't see that improves things.

If you must, Wiener Urtext are pretty highly regarded, as are Barenreiter. Both also claim to be Urtext.  So, probably, does the Peters on IMSLP (they claim it for pretty much everything).

Between the lot, you'll probably be able to justify absolutely anything.
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Re: Schubert wanderer Fantasy
Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 06:58:54 AM
There are no footnotes in my henle...
Have you downloaded the critical analysis from the Henle website? It's free.

That shows the different sources that their edition is compiled from, and by measure where the differences are. You can then decide for yourself from there.

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