What do you think you'll die of?

[Bob]

Realistically. 


(Why to lighten up the party there, Bob...  )


I was thinking a heart attack, but I think that's a bit less now.  Still possible though, heart disease of some kind, ending up in a heart attack.

After that I was thinking a cold or flu could actually knock me out.  Something like that that turns into pneumonia.  The cough that never goes away and slowly gets worse.  Until it takes over.  Something taking over the lungs like that.

Getting hit by a car.  Stupid or random accident like that.

And then something like cancer or a tumor.  Live long enough, the body can't keep up with the repairs and then something like that happens.

Less likely diabetes.

Or something like Alzheimer's... I saw a TED talk with a chart that showed the risk factors...  It was basically 100% after something like 80 years old. 


Just thinking. 

What about you?  What's going to kill you in the future?  Realistically.    About a year ago I saw a lot of 'top 10 realistic reasons for your death' and started thinking about it more.


If there a lot of teens on the site, they probably won't care.

I'm thinking too... If there are so many people on the site... Someone must have died off.  It's just statistics at some point.  Oh!  Haha.  Tim.  I forgot about Tim.  Haha.  There must be more though. They would just stop posting and no one will notice much.

[j_menz]

Entropy.

[thalbergmad]

Boredom

[pianist1976]

laughter

[outin]

Nothing of course!

[Bob]

Nothing of course!

True.  We just have to live long enough.



Good 'ole Wikipedia... It's even got an entry on how you'll die.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate


Parkinson's.... That's the TED talk graph was about, not Alzheimer's.  Not that it the difference much of a difference.


I wonder if it will end up like with the composers... A couple hundred years from now.... "Oh, he died of a heart attack?  That's a pretty dumb reason to dumb.  Who goes and has a heart attack?  Why didn't they just do ____ and avoid that?"


Looks like for organs going out.... heart, brain, lungs, stomach.... That's nice. 

Even a chart for just the U.S. on that Wikipedia page....  Yep, heart disease.   I remember reading you can get the flu and that triggers a heart attack. Kind of deceptive that way. 

[outin]

If I decide to go though, I will most likely stop breathing...in 40 years or so I would definitely need new lungs.

[timothy42b]

Depends.

If you're left handed, I would think cancer becomes less likely.

[inverted]

Hopefully, whatever it is it just gets straight to the heart and lungs and finishes me off.

Stay away from my brain and digestive system please, I don't want the rest of my body to keep stupidly chugging along whilst my brain turns to putty or I can't control my bowel movements.

[dima_76557]

[indianajo]

Hit by a car while walking/biking, or some new virus like SARS , MERS, or ebola gets loose in the midwest.    
I've had pneumonia a couple of dozen times, and seem to catch every virus that is going around.  Antibiotics are the key to my survival, and they are not researching new ones, they don't pay the drug company enough. I've had measles 5 times, the last time the Army took a culture my history is so weird.  

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Skating

[senanserat]

We have taken steps to assure our spirit doesn't leave this plane of existence, while our body may one day succumb it will be a matter of days before my loyal servants prepare the ritual to bring us back to a material body.

If they won't cooperate lets just say we also planned for that.

Anyway this physical body of ours is still fresh and we do keep in top shape (can't have the God of the new world be obese, now can we?) now... we require nourishment. Dismissed.

[Bob]

And what will kill off your physical body eventually?  Haha.

[senanserat]

And what will kill off your physical body eventually?  Haha.

Probably fending off the last vestiges of opposition to our world conquer, where we will herd them all into one location to detonate in glorious findfyre thus marking the dawn of a new age.

Meanwhile our servants will make arrangements to prepare our return

[j_menz]

Probably fending off the last vestiges of opposition to our world conquer, where we will herd them all into one location to detonate in glorious findfyre thus marking the dawn of a new age.

Meanwhile our servants will make arrangements to prepare our return

Your "servants" are the ones in the white coats, right?

[Bob]

This reminds me of the time a parent started tell me about their religion and how they worship a snake.  

[Bob]

Hmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

United States
overall  79.8 years
male     77.4 years
female  82.2 years

[j_menz]

Hmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

United States
overall  79.8 years
male     77.4 years
female  82.2 years

US Rank - 35th

Strangely, though, you guys spend more per capita on your health than anyone else. 50% more than the next country (Norway - ranked 17 by life expectancy).

Value for money?

[Bob]

I know.  The health industry charges insane prices.  I end up not going to a doctor because I don't want to pay anything -- Insurance might say it's covering it all, but then you end up with some extra fee or charge that isn't in their maze of rules.  And... that means you need to pay your 10% of the extra fee they don't cover but they'll be nice enough to cover 90% of in this case.  They'll make an exception for you.

Although if the average American is overweight... You just "beat" the average person for health, and I imagine that would increase your life expectancy.  It needs more of a bell curve graph of how long people are living.


I thought it was 72 for the average US male.  Still not a huge difference though.


The fat American though.... I'm seeing more withered old Americans, rather than fat, old Americans.  I wonder if the fat average Americans are dying off sooner. 

[timothy42b]

I thought it was 72 for the average US male.  Still not a huge difference though.


The fat American though.... I'm seeing more withered old Americans, rather than fat, old Americans.  I wonder if the fat average Americans are dying off sooner. 

Halpern and Colber (IIRC) found left handers died an average of 9 years earlier than right handers

That's an old statistic and I'm not sure anybody's replicated it  But for sure, you can't find many lefties above 85

[j_menz]

Halpern and Colber (IIRC) found left handers died an average of 9 years earlier than right handers

That's an old statistic and I'm not sure anybody's replicated it  But for sure, you can't find many lefties above 85

That study was based on professional Baseballers. It was replicated in Cricketers, though the difference was nowhere near as great (2.5 years). Interestingly, lefties had a significantly greater chance of being killed in war!

The methodology of the Halpern & Colber study was disputed by a number of people,  and those criticisms would also apply to the Cricketer study.

Another study comes to the opposite conclusion, though again by a much smaller margin.

[outin]

Hmm....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

So...IF I was average, I would live up to 84...but I am not so I'll just live as long as I want 

[senanserat]

Your "servants" are the ones in the white coats, right?

We'll have to torture yet again, there has been a leak.

[senanserat]

That study was based on professional Baseballers. It was replicated in Cricketers, though the difference was nowhere near as great (2.5 years). Interestingly, lefties had a significantly greater chance of being killed in war!

The methodology of the Halpern & Colber study was disputed by a number of people,  and those criticisms would also apply to the Cricketer study.

Another study comes to the opposite conclusion, though again by a much smaller margin.

Lefties are cannon fodder in the first rows so those who are not descendants of Bhaál, Astaroth, Nosferatu, Asmodeus etc don't carry on their legacy.

It is know.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Oh I forgot you're all gonna die at my hands when I end the world.

[outin]

Oh I forgot you're all gonna die at my hands when I end the world.

You mean MY hands, right? Can't wait to get them on that Ravel piece!

Once you sell a piece of you to the devil, there's no going back you know...

[j_menz]

Oh I forgot you're all gonna die at my hands when I end the world.

You forgot? 

[Bob]

Other factors I thought of later...

Being depressed.


And then towards the end... Say you make it to old age.... If you're really falling apart...  Pretty much everything else would get trashed.  If it doesn't work and it's a huge amount of effort.  Add some pain... esp. if it was something like losing your mind and you were aware enough of it... At some point if your body and mind were really going, it might not be worth bothering with it anymore.

[Bob]

Won't display...
https://twitter.com/AHMalcolm/status/487692770119651328/photo/1


So after they solve heart disease and cancer.... This is the next level to knock you out?


At some point, they're just going to have to keep us with young bodies/minds/cells.  Something's going to go wrong after the materials reach a certain age.  It doesn't matter which specific thing it happens to be.  The cells get too old to keep up.

[outin]

 The cells get too old to keep up.

We all start smelling like rotten flesh? A new kind of zombie, not dead yet?

[Bob]

We all start smelling like rotten flesh? A new kind of zombie, not dead yet?

Actually... There is an "old person" smell, isn't there?  A zombie's dead but still animated.  A person who is old is still alive but worn down, possibly mentally not quite there anymore.... On the physical side, probably about the same for frailty, except the zombies can probably move faster....  You don't really see many non-mobile zombies in movies, now that I think about it.  There's the crawling hand, but zombies are usually staggering around. They're pretty active compared to a lot of people who are old.

[outin]

Actually... There is an "old person" smell, isn't there?

Is there? I can only tell that there's an "old cat" smell, but it is usually due to specific health issues and reduced ability to groom rather than cellular level aging...

  A zombie's dead but still animated.  A person who is old is still alive but worn down, possibly mentally not quite there anymore.... On the physical side, probably about the same for frailty, except the zombies can probably move faster....  You don't really see many non-mobile zombies in movies, now that I think about it.  There's the crawling hand, but zombies are usually staggering around. They're pretty active compared to a lot of people who are old.

Seems to me that zombies just managed to develope a robotic way of moving that requires little muscular acitivity, but is not very fast or flexible.

Then again we really don't know that much about zombies, how long do their actually "live"? Have you seen a 70 year old zombie? Maybe there will one day be a market for zombie rollators?

[ted]

It's all guesswork, of course, but for various good reasons I think my heart and circulation will be the least of my worries. As I lead a careful and unadventurous life, accidental death is also less likely than for most. I therefore think cancer has the greatest probability, probably one of the rarer, intractable ones, which are going to become commoner among an ageing population, increasing longevity and improving health services.

[aaronpetit]

Nothing. I don't believe death has a right to claim me.

[visitor]

I am pretty certain it will be either my heart stops beating or I stop breathing. Or a combo of those two. Yep, that would do me in pretty good.

[Bob]

But what would cause that?

[j_menz]

Death would cause both of them. 

[Bob]

Depends how you define it. I think death would happen after that.  You could say we're all dying right now though I guess.