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Offline martha96

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Ravel-La Valse
on: June 18, 2014, 05:27:06 PM
Hi!  :) I was wondering if anyone can help me with the ossias written in the original transcription of 'La Valse' made by Ravel. I'm currently learning the piece and while reading through, I figured out that I can't get the right way of playing all the glissandi and the chromaticism. I really need help and I hope those who offer me some advice and tips have played the piece down to performance level. Kisses & hugs, Martha.  :-*
Currently working on:
Bach prelude and fugue No.20
Beethoven Waldstein
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Op.61
Chopin Etude Op.25 No.6
Liszt T.E. No.8
Ravel Piano Concerto

Offline flashyfingers

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
Have you ever practiced fingering a glissando?
I would start there.
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Offline martha96

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 08:33:40 AM
You're right. I've never played glissandos, but I only wanted to know how the glissando must fit in the music. What chords should and should not be ommited in order to play the glissando?  ::)
Currently working on:
Bach prelude and fugue No.20
Beethoven Waldstein
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Op.61
Chopin Etude Op.25 No.6
Liszt T.E. No.8
Ravel Piano Concerto

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 09:44:18 PM
Can you provide a score?
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Offline martha96

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #4 on: June 22, 2014, 10:32:48 PM
I appreciate your concern, but I gave up on La Valse due to its difficulty. I find it rather awkward for the hand.  :-[
Currently working on:
Bach prelude and fugue No.20
Beethoven Waldstein
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Op.61
Chopin Etude Op.25 No.6
Liszt T.E. No.8
Ravel Piano Concerto

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 12:09:06 AM
I appreciate your concern, but I gave up on La Valse due to its difficulty. I find it rather awkward for the hand.  :-[

It is rather long.

Perhaps some other Ravel?
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Offline martha96

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 03:37:29 PM
I've played 'Valses nobles et sentimentales' before and thought of moving forward, so I gave up on the idea of playing other Ravel than 'La Valse'. I sight read through Brahms Sonata No.1 and Chopin's Second Sonata and I simply can't decide. Both seem a challenge and I'm not aware which is technically/musically/learning-wise easier to grasp.
Currently working on:
Bach prelude and fugue No.20
Beethoven Waldstein
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Op.61
Chopin Etude Op.25 No.6
Liszt T.E. No.8
Ravel Piano Concerto

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
I've played 'Valses nobles et sentimentales' before and thought of moving forward, so I gave up on the idea of playing other Ravel than 'La Valse'. I sight read through Brahms Sonata No.1 and Chopin's Second Sonata and I simply can't decide. Both seem a challenge and I'm not aware which is technically/musically/learning-wise easier to grasp.

Why not Schubert sonata?
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Offline martha96

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 12:16:21 AM
My teacher asked me to decide between these two mentioned above.
Currently working on:
Bach prelude and fugue No.20
Beethoven Waldstein
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Op.61
Chopin Etude Op.25 No.6
Liszt T.E. No.8
Ravel Piano Concerto

Offline flashyfingers

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 02:28:50 AM
The Brahms and the Chopin are so different. Which composer have you played more of?
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Offline martha96

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
Yes, they are, but I love them both... I've performed on stage many Chopin works before (Nocturnes, Waltzes, Mazurkas, Etudes, Fantasie Op.49), but never played on stage Brahms.
Currently working on:
Bach prelude and fugue No.20
Beethoven Waldstein
Chopin Polonaise-Fantasie Op.61
Chopin Etude Op.25 No.6
Liszt T.E. No.8
Ravel Piano Concerto

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Re: Ravel-La Valse
Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 03:09:38 PM
Interesting!
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