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Offline rob47

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bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
on: August 11, 2014, 12:05:43 AM
from a recital a few years ago; some mistakes but i thought it went ok at the time
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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #1 on: February 07, 2015, 06:29:19 PM
hi everyone

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enjoy the weekend
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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #2 on: February 07, 2015, 10:17:18 PM
Thank you for sharing this recording.  This is a very good performance. I really enjoyed it!  There were a couple of minor things which could make it even better:

1. Occasionally, the left starts the melody accented, instead of gradually building up; i.e. <, start softly and modulate following melodic contours. This accenting is jarring because it stands out too much.

2. When the RH and LH melody are in counterpoint, it sometimes sounds as if the balance jumps back and forth as opposed to remaining steady.  Sometimes, the RH subito p which makes it sound as it it disappears under the LH melody.  Any dynamic changes should be gradual.  Also, sometimes the RH is too soft, giving way too much for the LH melody.  At these times, the RH should be at least as prominent as the LH since it helps intensify the musical ideas.

3. There are sections which are emotionally intense.  It already pushes forward, but it should push forward even more.  This should help make the emotional anguish and joy more clear to the listener.

4. There is a repeated appoggiatura motive throughout; i.e. "sol-la-sol RE--do".  The resolution of the appoggiatura is accented which accents the offbeat, e.g. Re Do.  This distorts the pulse and pulls the momentum but mainly, it breaks the motivic idea into two parts; the Sol-la-sol motive becomes trivial. The accent is consistent throughout which makes me think that it's written in the score (?), however, it's out of character.  It should resolve: >, Re do.

These are the main issues that I noticed.  If they were improved, it would make a very good performance into a great one.  Thank you again for sharing your performance.  I hope you record it again.

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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #3 on: February 08, 2015, 05:27:20 PM

It was just beatiful. It was a pleasure to listen. I didn't know this piece before. Also I don't understand why no one commented your topic for such a long time...

What equipment did you use for this recording?

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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #4 on: February 08, 2015, 05:56:20 PM
I also enjoyed your recording, Rob. My only reservation was that I would have liked slightly more sparing use of the pedal.

I'm still waiting for your message so that we can meet up for some drinking, and maybe a little four-hands playing!!

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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #5 on: February 09, 2015, 12:20:11 AM
Very enjoyable. A tasteful arrangement and performed in a befitting manner!
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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #6 on: February 09, 2015, 06:59:49 PM
A noble and dignified performance of this bottomlessly beautiful piece. Nowhere is Bach more serene than in the slow movements of his Trio Sonatas, and Feinberg and you do it full justice.
The few little slips are nowhere near important in the great scheme of things. It's a touch reverberant but not distractingly so - to me it could just as well be the acoustics just as the pedaling. The voicing is mostly exemplary.
My only tiny nitpick would be the last bar, where you are quite forceful at the start where it says pp. Great work ! The piece may not sound hard from from the score I would guess it is
quite a task.

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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #7 on: February 10, 2015, 06:53:24 PM
hi
thanks for listening and critiquing

@faulty_damper: calling it a very good performance is too kind thank you; i appreciate you going into detail about what needs to be better, especially point number 2 about the balance of counterpoint. listening to it i hear so many places where melodies didn't resolve or just disappear when another voice enters and it's something i certainly need more focus on.
i dunno if i'll play it again but certainly would heed all your advice next time around thanks again

@awesome_o and @verqueue it was recorded at a nice recital hall but it's just the house microphones as i didn't want to fork out a thousand for the engineer to work on it 8)
altho i agree with awesome about too much pedal.
we can meet up for beers whenevs i will message you - combining drinking and piano  doesn't work for me anymore i lose all my coordination lol

@ronde thanks for listening i appreciate the kind words coming from the transcription king of pianostreet

@cbreemer also too kind thank you for listening - again i think it's acoustics and pedalling which make it too murky


thanks all again for humouring my shameless bump lol

best,
rob





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Re: bach-feinberg largo from trio sonata 5 (live)
Reply #8 on: February 10, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
Thank you for that shameless bump.   :D
I've listened to your performance dozens of times already and really enjoyed it.
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