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Offline lostinidlewonder

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Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
on: October 12, 2014, 02:26:52 PM
Bought this for 20c. Frank Bridge autographed, I wonder how much it is worth? Anyone know? Picked it up from state library which was throwing out all its old sheets music!!! Literally bought as much as I could carry lol. Frank Bridge was a tutor of the very famous Benjamin Britten, might be worth something huh! At least more than 20c!!

Anyone tell me more about Bridge and his influence on music or Britten? Thanks.

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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #1 on: October 12, 2014, 03:41:21 PM
Wow, what a great find ! You did well to grab as much as possible. Changes like that don't come by often.

No telling what this is "worth", but I'm sure a collector would pay more than decent money for
it, if only you find the right place to sell it (but I would not get rid of it, personally). Bridge was
an excellent (piano) composer who was held in high esteem by Britten. That must say something,
as Britten said he did not learn anything at all from his other teacher, John Ireland, who was IMO just as good a composer as Bridge.

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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #2 on: October 12, 2014, 04:21:56 PM
Anyone tell me more about Bridge and his influence on music or Britten? Thanks.

https://www.musicweb-international.com/bridge/index.htm
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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #3 on: October 12, 2014, 07:29:47 PM
Frank Bridge gets some airplay on the WFMT FM network and my local affiliate, WUOL-FM.  So he is not forgotten.
I hate it when major repositories like a state library pitch out stuff like this.  All we need is the top 40 hits, we're all good consumers aren't we?  I hope they microfilmed it.  Can't the state afford room maintenance on an old obsolete building somewhere? 

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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 02:53:21 AM
Wow, what a great find ! You did well to grab as much as possible. Changes like that don't come by often.
Yeah it was a real surprise to walk into the library and see all these boxes full of sheet music and books for next to nothing! I was in heaven to say the least lol!

No telling what this is "worth", but I'm sure a collector would pay more than decent money for
it, if only you find the right place to sell it (but I would not get rid of it, personally).
I think im with you on that, i dont think ill sell it, im very curious of rhe value though, could be 10x than what i bought it for! Lol

Bridge was an excellent (piano) composer who was held in high esteem by Britten. That must say something, as Britten said he did not learn anything at all from his other teacher, John Ireland, who was IMO just as good a composer as Bridge.
That is interesting info on Britten's attitude thanks!

Frank Bridge gets some airplay on the WFMT FM network and my local affiliate, WUOL-FM.  So he is not forgotten.
I hate it when major repositories like a state library pitch out stuff like this.  All we need is the top 40 hits, we're all good consumers aren't we?  I hope they microfilmed it.  Can't the state afford room maintenance on an old obsolete building somewhere? 
I have played a few of his works on piano over the years but never really paid attention to him till i found this autograph of his. It has been interesting reading about his life and to hold something that he had written on has a nostalgic feel to it!

It is a shame that the library doesnt look carefully at what it gets rid of, lots of the music had names written on it so i guess they have no time to verify every single thing. At the same time it is great that they sell it off as I got so many books and sheets over 100 years old for 10c-50c. I did look rather odd im sure walking through the city with a mountain of books balancing in my arms!
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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 03:26:52 AM
could be 10x than what i bought it for! Lol

I'd give you twice that.

Any indication that the "Ferdanino" is a young Ferdinand Speyer would increase the price.
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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 04:11:14 AM
It could be a young student as the pieces are easy piano pieces he wrote for teaching, but yes lets say it's probably this Speyer fellow :) i wonder what shading means too? Maybe the pictures were drawn by someone but shaded by someone else and Bridge was giving that mention?
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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 04:23:06 AM
i wonder what shading means too? Maybe the pictures were drawn by someone but shaded by someone else and Bridge was giving that mention?

The illustrator is mentioned (in print) on the cover.

Are any of them hand shaded? MH Fass is almost certainly his friend (and possibly more) Marjorie Fass, and her hand shading would increase the interest factor quite considerably.

Edit: She's the one in the middle (the other two being Frank and his wife Ethel)

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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 05:32:23 AM
Regardless of its monetary value that is a very nice thing to have found and to keep. I have loved Bridge's music ever since I heard the excellent three CDs of his piano music by Peter Jacobs (the same man who recorded three CDs of Chaminade's pieces). I found them in the public library and as luck would have it, the Continuum label at that time was owned by an Auckland musician a few miles away. I don't know who owns it now.
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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 12:35:59 PM
it is cool, and likely a neat addition to your personal collection, however 'value' is not only relative, but difficult to establish.  it would serve you well to get with the people in the library's archiving dept. to see if they have records of the initial acquisition.

you will need to stablish provenance (i.e. authenticity). if you can have some record from the library proving it it was acquired from Bridges then have it notarized it is a step in the right direction. you will still then likely have to pay a forensic hand writing investigator to verify and certify (would also involve finding previously authenticated signatures for comparison). This is/can be very expensive and not worth it except for the most famous of signatures (likely will cost more time and money than the actual market value of the item(s)).

Still a pretty cool find though, especially if it is real. 

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Re: Amazing find! Frank Bridge.
Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
the Continuum label at that time was owned by an Auckland musician a few miles away. I don't know who owns it now.
I don't think that you'll find that company in existence any longer.

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