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Offline rachlisztchopin

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Chopin DVD
on: December 03, 2004, 05:03:58 AM
Has anyone bought the Chopin etudes played by Valentina Lisetsa....I am interested in buying this DVD if someone can give me information on how good she performs the chopin 24 etudes and all...thanks!

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #1 on: December 03, 2004, 06:20:39 PM
I've heard other recordings by Lisista, but I haven't had a chance to hear this. If it's as good as her other playing, it would be worth buying. You can download some audio and video clips from her site, which can be found here:

https://www.valentinalisitsa.com/valhome.html

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #2 on: December 03, 2004, 07:12:10 PM
If u want some comedy, check out her don juan
her Etude Tableux by Rach is quite good.

I have seen her Chopin etudes samples, I actually like it a lot, I think she has been putting a lot of efford into them..

But the Don Juan sure gave her a bad name.
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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #3 on: December 04, 2004, 12:10:50 AM
If u want some comedy, check out her don juan
her Etude Tableux by Rach is quite good.

I have seen her Chopin etudes samples, I actually like it a lot, I think she has been putting a lot of efford into them..

But the Don Juan sure gave her a bad name.

I disagree with you, but you're entitled to your opinion and that's something that I won't take away from you.  I've listened to the Don Juan Fantasy over one hundred times in its entirety.  While I do feel that her version is rather fast (probably the fastest  I've ever seen/heard the piece played), I feel that it's also clean (with an exception to the end which was extremely too fast and blurred).  Did you not like the jestures/motions she made?

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #4 on: December 04, 2004, 01:04:17 AM
Yeah I agree, she played that beautifully...except the last minute or two...she made an enormous amount of mistakes...but so what.  She must have gotten very tired playing for 13 minutes with that much force and speed.
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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #5 on: December 04, 2004, 06:03:42 AM
Wow, she's a total hottie too.

Her technique looks hard on the wrist, but then again, she could probably play me in circles with one hand tied behind her back, so who am I to judge? I guess you can't argue with the results.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #6 on: December 04, 2004, 08:25:24 AM
She is very pretty. I guess that would be another reason to get the video  ;). haha

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #7 on: December 05, 2004, 01:03:48 AM
Her nose and lips are huge. She isn't pretty at all. :(

However, her playing is excellent. If you go to her website you can watch her play the Horowitz-Bizet Carmen variations. Wonderful performance.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #8 on: December 05, 2004, 01:11:58 AM
Her nose and lips are huge. She isn't pretty at all. :(
From Russian With Love:
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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #9 on: December 05, 2004, 04:17:07 AM

From Russian With Love:
"My mouth is too big."
"No, it's just the right size."

Bad boy! >:(

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #10 on: December 05, 2004, 04:27:47 AM
lmao  ;D

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #11 on: December 05, 2004, 04:36:13 AM
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Her nose and lips are huge. She isn't pretty at all. Sad

Perhaps the schnoz is a bit on the big side, but since when are full, pouting lips a bad quality? Plus, her piano chops are the ultimate "hottie amplifier", sort of like how an average looking woman that has a cool accent suddenly becomes hot. She's a piano-shredding babe in my book!

Offline chromatickler

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #12 on: December 05, 2004, 08:46:20 AM
I actually enjoy her style very much, especially her willingness to sacrifice accuracy for SPEEED & FUUUURY at climax points.  8)

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #13 on: December 05, 2004, 08:58:24 AM
willingness to sacrifice accuracy for SPEEED & FUUUURY at climax points.  8)

Here ya go 8)

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #14 on: December 05, 2004, 09:14:23 AM
You can get a couple of reviews on Amazon.com. 

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002KZXAU/qid=1102237897/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-6838152-9547101?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

I read them and the biggest complaint is that the performances were cut 'n paste film editing and that the music heard is not the same as the notes being played.  One reviewer caught her making numerous mistakes by looking at ther hands but the notes heard were correct.

I was considering it for purchase until I read the reviews. 
I guess what you watch is important and from the responses in this thread, her appearance may be a deal breaker. ::)

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Reply #15 on: December 05, 2004, 09:39:44 AM
You can get a couple of reviews on Amazon.com. 

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002KZXAU/qid=1102237897/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/104-6838152-9547101?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

I read them and the biggest complaint is that the performances were cut 'n paste film editing and that the music heard is not the same as the notes being played.  One reviewer caught her making numerous mistakes by looking at ther hands but the notes heard were correct.

I was considering it for purchase until I read the reviews. 
I guess what you watch is important and from the responses in this thread, her appearance may be a deal breaker. ::)

Where have you seen that not live performances are unedited and are not cut'n paste??? Many even so called "live" are (including those of Horowitz--even "Live in Moscow"--I was sitting in the hall at that concert). It seems that with Lisitsa's DVD sound and film engineers could do a better job editing and synchronizing, though.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #16 on: December 05, 2004, 10:36:36 AM
The editing obviously dont imply that she can't play these pieces live. In fact, she's been doing all 24 in recitals. Although I'm dissapointed because that means there wont be any uncut hand angles like in the Yundi Li chopin competition dvd.

hope i didn't say anything wrong. *lookz around for tibidi*

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #17 on: December 05, 2004, 11:35:37 AM
On the other hand, it is (apparently) the only Chopin etudes DVD/video available… :-\
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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #18 on: December 05, 2004, 12:32:23 PM
On the other hand, Da SDC is producing a compilation set. Richter's 10/4 & 10/12 have already been approved for inclusion. We're also requesting a 10/2 video from Da RUDY

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #19 on: December 05, 2004, 08:25:13 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is SDC? I tried to google, but the very first hit was Swingers Date Club, which does not sound quite right.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #20 on: December 05, 2004, 10:02:16 PM
https://www.dasdc.net/forum/index.php

Join da darkside. It is yo destiny  8)

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #21 on: December 05, 2004, 10:02:32 PM

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #22 on: December 05, 2004, 10:04:50 PM
Oops, got beaten to the punch.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #23 on: December 05, 2004, 11:17:46 PM


Perhaps the schnoz is a bit on the big side, but since when are full, pouting lips a bad quality? Plus, her piano chops are the ultimate "hottie amplifier", sort of like how an average looking woman that has a cool accent suddenly becomes hot. She's a piano-shredding babe in my book!

Big pouting lips are always a bad quality. There's full lips, and there's big ugly lips.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #24 on: December 05, 2004, 11:28:06 PM
da rudy 10/2 vid? does dis exist or is u requesting from da man hiself

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #25 on: December 05, 2004, 11:56:31 PM
The editing obviously dont imply that she can't play these pieces live. In fact, she's been doing all 24 in recitals. Although I'm dissapointed because that means there wont be any uncut hand angles like in the Yundi Li chopin competition dvd.

hope i didn't say anything wrong. *lookz around for tibidi*

Of course that doesn't mean she can't play them. She can play them but with her hands UN-syncronized.  And that's why there are music CDs.  Much cheaper. ;D

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #26 on: December 06, 2004, 01:06:09 AM
Oops, got beaten to the punch.
You were quite a bit slowah 8)

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #27 on: December 06, 2004, 01:08:47 AM
da rudy 10/2 vid? does dis exist or is u requesting from da man hiself
Indeed, we is trying to get in touch wit Da Main Man himself

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #28 on: August 22, 2005, 03:07:36 AM
i do not own this DVD, what extras are there i wonder?

because i actually own the DVD by the BBC of chopin's complete op28, 10, 25, and sonata no2

freddy kempf does a GREAT job of the etudes, IMO considerably better than lisitsa

he takes down a speed record in to 25/2 aswell, very impressive technique

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #29 on: August 22, 2005, 03:10:59 PM
Oh sh*t...is that that guy Comme le Vent? He joined the only other forum I post at and got banned almost immediately. He posted something like 60 posts per day, though he posted a ton of rare piano videos. It seemed like his sole purpose of being there was to spam the site with adds for that forum.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #30 on: August 22, 2005, 03:28:29 PM
yeah, ive often wondered if chromatickler is him.

but chromatickler does no harm, he contributes insightful comments on many things.

i agree with many of his ideas about piano technique.

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Re: Chopin DVD
Reply #31 on: August 23, 2005, 03:36:57 PM
On the other hand, it is (apparently) the only Chopin etudes DVD/video available… :-\

I plan on learning from a man by the name of John Hendrickson. He was commissioned to video record all the chopin etudes and some other major works. I haven't found out how to get a hold of them.

boliver
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