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Offline faa2010

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More clumsier due to my state of mind
on: November 18, 2014, 04:33:15 PM
Most of the time, I feel that my mind is a mess, that it has a lot of things, ideas which can pop and appear randomly.  My mind can jump from one idea to another which is "not related" to the last one.

Also I have seen that when I feel annoyed, angered, mad, sad, emotional or worried, I can't concentrate in my playing and my playing gets worse, more uneven and I don't feel I want to play, so sometimes I stop playing because if I continue, I stop enjoying playing.

One of my teachers told me that when I play it is seen that I am nervous and insecure just by how I touch the keys even though I didn't feel tense at that moment.

How can I overcome all these?

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #1 on: November 19, 2014, 12:41:25 AM
Maybe write them down so you've got them.  No need to think about them after that.  You've got them written down.

Or practice.  Focus on one thing for x-minutes. 
Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #2 on: November 19, 2014, 12:54:02 AM
One of the better solutions to solve this is meditation. And to start with some breathing exercises together with focusing the mind.
Check it out.

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 01:06:48 AM
Suggestion...




Come over to the dark side.... Just a sip.  That's all.




Grr... If this doesn't post after the third time....
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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 09:45:58 AM
When you put your spiritual mind in order the rest falls in behind it. You will find your interests and desires in the proper places. I'm not here to preach, just saying that much. You are describing a person whose life is out of order and order starts at the top. And indeed as mentioned, meditation is one element that can be a very powerful component in all that. It is but one though.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
You're already on your way by acknowledging that this is the way you feel.

I believe that in meditation circles this is called "the monkey mind"...when your thoughts are scrambling around like crazed simians.  This isn't unusual and I think most of us feel this way at one time or another.

I always approach the keyboard with this phrase:  Just for one hour, I will not think about anything other than this.  Each time my mind starts to wander, I just think:  Not now, when my hour is done.

It works for me!

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #6 on: November 20, 2014, 05:49:55 PM
Most of the time, I feel that my mind is a mess, that it has a lot of things, ideas which can pop and appear randomly.  My mind can jump from one idea to another which is "not related" to the last one.

Also I have seen that when I feel annoyed, angered, mad, sad, emotional or worried, I can't concentrate in my playing and my playing gets worse, more uneven and I don't feel I want to play, so sometimes I stop playing because if I continue, I stop enjoying playing.

One of my teachers told me that when I play it is seen that I am nervous and insecure just by how I touch the keys even though I didn't feel tense at that moment.

How can I overcome all these?

There are two ways you can HELP YOURSELF, as NOBODY can really help YOU.

What I mean by that ?

Nobody can fix anything for you, as your desires, wishes, opinions, prejudices, attachments and aversions are CUSTOM to your consciousness. The “cocktail” that YOU carry within, is known only to YOU and ONLY YOU can change IT. You just need to learn HOW. In younger years your mind (consciousness) was programed by family/society. NOW, You have the ability to choose what to let in there and what to refuse. Do You wisely use it? Or, You allow others to run your life, by accepting nonsense that comes from other disturbed minds?
 
There are two ways by which YOU can fix Your problems.

Short term amounts to using control over your mind by learning concentration and the rights form of meditation. Long term by applying what you have learned, to totally remove the cause of you problems (emotional energy trapped in the body - source of almost ALL your thoughts) Next is learning the right way of thinking. That help, I mentioned earlier, comes from UNDARSTANDING how you function as a human, where the thoughts come from, what are thoughts, feelings and emotions. Understanding means first getting familiar with ideas, if there are new to you AND later proving those ideas WITHIN YOURSELF - seeing, feeling, that they work as “advertised”. Without that proof ALL is USLESS and a distraction. Without that step, those ideas become “collected in consciousness garbage”, which supplies your mind with a constant stream of unrelated thoughts and connected with them feelings, which are ALL disharmony. You already know them. I quote your words: “I feel annoyed, angered, mad, sad, emotional or worried”. ALL those feelings CAN be REMOVED by YOU. You do not need to suffer. All Your suffering IS SELF CREATED. You do it by unconsciously repeating wrong mental habits. If You become conscious of those thoughts and feelings, YOU can change them. Otherwise You are a SLAVE to them.

In my earlier posts (use the search) You will find enough information and sources to point You to the right way of learning about thoughts, feelings and a best way to LET them GO (Sedona Method created by Lester Levenson). I will skip that step here.

CONCENTRATION

Link to a very good way of learning concentration:
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Concentration

In that article Billy says "Psychically damaged memory and the strength of concentration can and must be awakened again through the following concentration exercise utilising either a candle, crystal, glass ball or line.” That “psychical damage” is EXACTLY accumulation of emotional energy (apathy, grief, fear, anger ...) in the brain/body. When removed, even partially, by using for example Sedona Method, will speed up all learning, not only concentration. That is why it is good to combine learning concentration and Letting Go. How You gonna know that it works? Growing clarity of mind and peace felt in the body will become obvious. It is gradual process and sometimes lengthy (depending on amount of accumulated garbage).

MEDITATION
Start here (VERY Good POINTS):
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Meditation_Basics

All Letting Go cannot happen without learning meditation. Why? Because in many people there is no separate OBSERVER of thoughts and feelings. If person is not conscious of his/her thoughts, then he/she IS just THOSE THOUGHTS, acts in the moment by ingrained in him/her habit - which amounts to being lost in the mind (thoughts) all the time, with short periods of regain consciousness. Meditation is a tool to fix it.
For me, it should be a TOTALY NEUTRAL OBSERVATION of you thoughts, feelings and body (places where You feel thoughts/feelings/emotions). You can call it also ATTENTION (no exclusion) - which is opposite to concentration (exclusion). You register things happening NOW.  YOU are just AWARE of them and do not want to block them. What blocks thoughts, feelings ? Your judgment of what You register/feel. Condemning something pushes it back IN. So, disregarding at that moment all social/religious programing is a MUST. Allowing oneself to just BE, approving anything that will come up from subconscious - good or bad - IS THE ONLY WAY. What  we call “bad” depends on culture/society, is already in subconscious, got there for most of us, without our approval in our childhood and later because of our ignorance - which is curable. True knowledge about ourselves fixes it. Meditation is also called MINDFULLNESS. There is no need for specific time and place for it. ALL THE TIME  should be a time for mindfulness. We add to watching thoughts/feeling within, the WORLD outside. What it means? We watch/observe what happens outside (life experiences that we created by old thinking) - see our inside reactions to them (thoughts/opinions/judgments/actions) which will again manifest later as new experiences - to which again we will react in a certain way (for a lot of people stupid, habitual way) This allows us to MAKE A CHANGE within (remove old programming and create new GOOD - TRULLY wanted) and change our experiences - which amounts to becoming a CAPTAIN of the ship, which we sail through LIFE.

THINKING

All what happens in the World Outside depends ONLY on our THOGHTS (world within - which is BOTH conscious AND subconscious). Listen to Bruce Lipton on Youtube:

Our actions always follow thinking - not the opposite. This has to be proven to oneself and meditation/mindfulness will allow it to be seen - otherwise this statement to a person is meaningless, but not necessarily not true. Every thought is like a coin (has two sides) - positive and negative. We have to experience BOTH opposites (love/hate) and cannot run away from it. Our attitude to what we experience in life, which we create 100% ourselves by thinking, WE can CHANGE. We can stop judging  FIRST ourselves and then others (who in our judgment harm us). They appear in our life by OUR INVITATION (thoughts). If we are aware of this LAW of UNIVERSE, we can change our attitude. Otherwise we run on STUPID. We create more harm to ourselves, others AND perpetuate constant struggle. Learning NEUTRAL POSITIVE THINKING is a MUST, to change what we perceive as feelings inside and experience outside.
SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS of BILLY MEIER can be a great help for each one of us to GET IT. That knowledge is required for proper UNDERSTANDING of Oneself. Earthly science is still not totally there - but each one of us can prove it within. I have, so I know it can be done. Open mind IS required to learn first and to allow oneself time to familiarize with Billy's material (most is still in German, maybe 5% in English translation) and PROVE IT. Books in English/German version “The PSYCHE” as well as “MIGHT OF THE THOUGHTS” are not cheap  and only available from select few places, but PRICLESS, when that knowledge is absorbed, proven AND USED in life.
A lot of Spiritual Teachings is free on https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Spirit_Teaching or https://theyfly.com/spiritual-teaching.

Where to look for books?
(German ONLY)
https://figu.org/shop/b%C3%BCcher/macht-der-gedanken
https://figu.org/shop/b%C3%BCcher/die-psyche
for english/german books contact them.

English/German (for USA/Canada only)
https://www.theyfly.com/the_psyche.html
https://www.theyfly.com/might_of_thoughts.html

Regards,

Andrew

P.S.
You can learn a lot about meditation, thoughts, desires, fears by watching on Youtube lectures of Jiddu Krishnamurti. Very good and helpful information.

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 09:05:27 AM
That's all very well mini but what if the root of the problem is a physical incapacity?
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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
That's all very well mini but what if the root of the problem is a physical incapacity?

You did not specify what You mean by "physical incapacity". If it means (I am exaggerating) that You were born with a body 1 (one) meter in hight, and You now want to have one, 2 (two) meters in height - I do not think so :)
But, a lot of acquired by sickness limitations, caused by emotional energy trapped in the body, can be reversed. Case in point: In 1952 Lester Levenson was diagnosed with a second hard attack. Doctors could not do anything for him ... so, they send him home ... to die. Faced with “inevitable”, he started questioning why he lived, what was the purpose of it. He concentrated on the questions with such intensity, that he got answers and realized who he really was, what caused his sickness. By removing the cause, he cured himself of all problems and lived for another 40 something years. And the way he lived after that, is hard for an average person to grasp - most cannot accept that it is possible. Because of all he went through - he created Sedona Method. One day I learned about it (as I was searching for answers myself). It was a missing link for me, as I already was familiar with English translations of Billy’s Spiritual Teachings (for me this IS the BEST there IS) and I was missing practical tool to remove disharmony from within... and that changed my life too.

Find on the net this book by Lester in PDF/kindle form : “No Attachments, No Aversions: The Autobiography of a Master” Do not believe it is all possible - just take it as a possibility - which You have to prove for Yourself - if desire for it will arise in You. It HAS to be created BY YOU. If “given”, pushed on You by others - is just USSLESS.

Here is the quote from Spiritual Teachins which is relevant to Your question:
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_10

 “54. Cognition of the truth brings liberation from all restrictions.”

What it means?

When You go through “self-realization”, which is not an intellectual process, but experiential - all limitations are gone for YOU. Will you then fix your "physical incapacity”? You will only know it THEN. You point of view may be completely different then, as it is NOW. Now, You see it through Your EGO “glasses” - old experiences, desires, attachments, aversions. With self-realizations EGO and personality, based on thoughts, is gone. Your “Individuality” will still be left. AFTER that, TRUE LIFE starts - effortless life. There is NOTHING more VALUBLE in LIFE (in my opinion) then to get to that stage. All ELSE pales in comparison. All people that went to the END ... will tell You that .... You just have to LISTEN.

Regards,

Andrew

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #9 on: November 21, 2014, 04:07:09 PM
 I should have been clearer.  If you are saying the 'mind' can overcome morbid conditions not caused by itself then I've got to strongly disagree.  I believe it's called faith healing - been debunked many times.
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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #10 on: November 21, 2014, 05:10:52 PM
I should have been clearer.  If you are saying the 'mind' can overcome morbid conditions not caused by itself then I've got to strongly disagree.  I believe it's called faith healing - been debunked many times.

I never said that. Mind is a cause of most of our problems and will by itself never fix anything. When we are in EGO mode, we think/act as a “particle” and not as a WHOLE. That by itself will always create conflicts/problems. See in Yourself, that You are afraid of many things You at the same time long for. Google Your mind .... and proof will be THERE. Just be patient AND OPEN MINDED.

What can cure illnesses IS CONSIOUSNESS ITSELF. It is already programed for “BALANCE", and our minds (thoughts, beliefs) interfere with that programing. Cut your skin and see that it “fixes itself”. Your mind is not doing anything and can only delay the process. You may attribute that power to body itself, but BODY/MIND exists ONLY in consciousness, is dependent on IT, without it cannot last for a second.

As to faith healing, I presume by the way You put you words together, that You accepted someones opinion (proof of that) and not done it Yourself. You are entitled to Your view. I have mine and You may disagree :)

Faith/believe is taking something for real on someones words, without proof. Strong conviction that something will happen is different than belief (and strength of that is purely individual) even when people think that God (which as explained by religions does not exist) will do it. Without any doubt interfering with that view, that conviction will CREATE through SUBCONSIOUS desired effect. There are no faith based “miracles”. Power of THOUGHTS which is realized through CONSIOUSNESS IS ONLY based on LOGIC.

Most people do not know consciously (and that is good) what power is available to them. TOTAL power of CREATION lies dormant in every human. Look in your eyes, see how all the parts look like and work, pay attention to all details ... and try to find out what it .... resembles. THERE lies the answer to Your hidden POWERS :)

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #11 on: November 21, 2014, 05:35:43 PM
Yeh, sounds like faith healing to me.  Not much use.  Let's say the OP is suffering from ADHD - wouldn't it make sense to investigate the cause before proffering a remedy?
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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #12 on: November 21, 2014, 08:12:00 PM
Yeh, sounds like faith healing to me.  Not much use.  Let's say the OP is suffering from ADHD - wouldn't it make sense to investigate the cause before proffering a remedy?

What I am giving here, are not the remedies, but pointing to TOOLS with which each person by himself/herself can INVESTIGATE and remove the cause. JUST seeing/feeling WITHIN the cause of the problem IS ENOUGH to dissolve IT. That energy (thought/feeling/emotion) when brought from subconscious to consciousness and recognized in AWARNESS will MELT AWAY by keeping our TOTAL ATTENTION on it. With good concentration one can do “INSIDE" things which most people would think to be impossible, and ANYONE with enough will, patience and practice can remove fear, grief, anger .... like trees with roots, pulled out of the ground by hand and at the same time FEEL from where in the body it is dislodged. This is not a joke. This is from my experience, not a hearsay/book knowledge, that I am selling for recognition. I do not care if You, or anybody else like it or not. At some point someone will find it useful. That is enough for me. I am just giving back what I received for free, from others.

As to ADHD. If my daughter (which I really have - she is 12 years old now), by chance when I was not around :) was recognized with that “sickness” by “geniuses”, which are noting more, then dealers of “pharma drugs” - I would have never allowed her to take even one pill or do other “treatments’. Maybe 20 years ago, when I was a “white powerless sheep”, I would have not hesitated and gone with advise of the “AUTHORITY”. Now, I am a “black sheep” perfectly AWARE of MY power, and power that is in each human, including my kids (son is 9). Because I realized that I was fooled by society, regained what I never lost, I was able to teach my kids  basics, how to deal with things that cause problems in body/mind/consciousness. My kids can remove pain in the body, work with their feelings and thoughts... according to their age, and be still kids, have fun etc. I cannot do it for THEM!!! If my kids can do it, ANYONE CAN.

I suffered from huge panic attacks for years, so I know what it feels like, to have short attention span, jumping quickly from one task to another, before completing the first etc. All is gone with NO DOCTORS AND PILLS - just understanding how it works (thoughts/feelings) with subsequent proof within was enough. To be frank, I went to 2 doctors and disregarded all advise, and I am happy that I found the courage within to do it. I even did not have to remove that energy from the body to stop the attacks. Spiritual knowledge played a big part in IT. But NOW I know how it works within - I checked it myself. I know that emotional energy, when it is compressed in muscles, internal organs, impacting the nervous system, makes us jumpy, nervous, short tempered, never at ease. The conflicting desires and will of others (clueless parents, teachers, other authority - books, TV, which always new better, what is good for us) which we stupidly accepted, and took within, is pulling us apart. HERE YOU have YOUR ADHD. Recognize what is PULLING YOU INSIDE in EVERY DIRECTION, dissolve it, or remove it consciously ... and YOUR mind/body, will find the BALANCE and PEACE. It will happen by ITSELF - just remove obstacles. But first You have to know HOW to find them.

How YOU would investigate the cause?

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 08:20:06 PM
What I am giving here, are not the remedies, but pointing to TOOLS with which each person by himself/herself can INVESTIGATE and remove the cause. JUST seeing/feeling WITHIN the cause of the problem IS ENOUGH to dissolve IT.
How YOU would investigate the cause?
If the cause is illness, which it could well be, I'd see the doctor rather than rely on 'wishing' it away.
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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #14 on: November 21, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
If the cause is illness, which it could well be, I'd see the doctor rather than rely on 'wishing' it away.

For me, illness is ALWAYS a SYMPTOM, not a CAUSE. How You went from what I wrote, to “ 'wishing' it away” is hard for me to fathom. But, You do not need to explain :)

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Re: More clumsier due to my state of mind
Reply #15 on: November 21, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
For the OP ILLNESS could well be the CAUSE. :-*
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