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Topic: An evening with Pianist, Yuja Wang (SF Davies Hall) Dec. 1, 2014  (Read 6770 times)

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Re: An evening with Pianist, Yuja Wang (SF Davies Hall) Dec. 1, 2014
Reply #50 on: December 12, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
I've never been nasty toward anyone on this forum.

That I guess is a matter of definition.
But I was actually not talking about this forum, but in more general terms. What you have told here about your problems with people suggests to me that you do something to trigger their hatred/dislike.


It's different to know not to make a fuss of your talents, but when you actually are talented you become a target by those envious.  If you've ever experienced being a target, you'd understand where I'm coming from.  But you don't.  People who are incredibly talented learn to hide it very early on for fear that they'd be attacked.

I guess you are not blessed with the kind of natural charm and ability to make people like you even with your incredible musical talents ;)


You're projecting again.  I made no argument. 

I was referring to my posts on this forum in general. I have often disagreed with your arguments (which you have made several times regarding many issues), but it has nothing to do with my expectations of your playing. If you play amazingly well, I am happy about it, because there's always room in my world for some great music making. If so, it's a pity you don't want to share, but that's your choice.

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Re: An evening with Pianist, Yuja Wang (SF Davies Hall) Dec. 1, 2014
Reply #51 on: December 12, 2014, 06:44:56 PM
That I guess is a matter of definition.
But I was actually not talking about this forum, but in more general terms. What you have told here about your problems with people suggests to me that you do something to trigger their hatred/dislike.
If providing honest criticism is considered being nasty, then I am nasty.  However, if you were a teacher, would you never tell your students what they are doing wrong?  Would you tell them "that's great", or "that's wonderful" when it has no merit?  How much do you think they'll improve if they play like dog poo and are told "that's magnificent"?

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I guess you are not blessed with the kind of natural charm and ability to make people like you even with your incredible musical talents ;)
Actually, I can be quite charming if I feel comfortable.  But to take your remark seriously, it's one thing to be able to play a piece well.  It's another to be able to play a piece easily.  The two are mutually exclusive, as you can clearly see any piano competition.

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I was referring to my posts on this forum in general. I have often disagreed with your arguments (which you have made several times regarding many issues), but it has nothing to do with my expectations of your playing. If you play amazingly well, I am happy about it, because there's always room in my world for some great music making. If so, it's a pity you don't want to share, but that's your choice.
Read again in a more objective lens.  You've attacked me several times just in this thread.  I even PM'd you once because I was so disappointed that you jumped on the bandwagon.  I lost an incredible amount of respect the moment you did that.  If what you say is true, why do you bring it up so many times?  You brought it up again just in that paragraph.  If you weren't interested, it wouldn't even cross your mind.  Just like it never crosses my mind to hear any of you play.

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Re: An evening with Pianist, Yuja Wang (SF Davies Hall) Dec. 1, 2014
Reply #52 on: December 12, 2014, 07:39:23 PM

Actually, I can be quite charming if I feel comfortable. 

Then maybe you should work on how to feel comfortable more often? It's not criticism that is the problem, but your behavior in general. It doesn't seem to work that well for you in social situations, judging from what I read and what I have observed here.

Read again in a more objective lens.  You've attacked me several times just in this thread.  I even PM'd you once because I was so disappointed that you jumped on the bandwagon.

Should I apologise for not meeting your expectations? Being nice really isn't my priority either, but if it's not too much of a trouble why not?

I cannot help thinking that anyone who feels attacked so easily is not well equipped to get along with different kinds of people, so it might explain why you see yourself as a victim. Unless it's all just an act...and what I have suspected is true and you purposely try to annoy people just to entertain yourself. That's fine too, just be more careful this time not to get banned :)

If what you say is true, why do you bring it up so many times?  You brought it up again just in that paragraph.  If you weren't interested, it wouldn't even cross your mind.  Just like it never crosses my mind to hear any of you play.

Bring what up? I am afraid I have a hard time following your reasoning...If you mean your playing, I believe it was you who brought it up. But I promise, if you play as well as my favorite pianists, I am definitely interested, because they are mostly dead...
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