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Offline thalbergmad

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Favorite work that does not exist.
on: February 23, 2015, 06:56:04 PM
Mine would be the Smetena Piano Concerto.

What is yours?.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 07:08:37 PM
Scriabin - Mysterium

Bach - Preludes and Fugues for ondes martenot

Mozart - Sunday

Beethoven - Symphony "Minimalist"

Alkan - Pain inducers

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 08:07:20 PM
sibelius symphony no. 8

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
Mine would be the Smetena Piano Concerto.

What is yours?.

Thal

Are you sure your favorite isn't the Schumann Piano Concerto No. 2?

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
Scriabin - Mysterium

Bach - Preludes and Fugues for ondes martenot

Mozart - Sunday

Beethoven - Symphony "Minimalist"

Alkan - Pain inducers
Actually there is Mysterium from Scriabin I think
but Mozart - Sunday. It killed me :D :D
Chopin etudes op.10 No 1,3,12 op.25 No 12
Schumann and Grieg piano concertos A minor
Beethoven sonatas No.17, No.14
Rachmaninoff prelude B minor
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 08:55:31 PM
Oh, one more:

Mahler - Snowstorm

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 08:59:07 PM
Bartok - Hungarian rhapsody on a theme of Brahms for arm pit farts and tambourine

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 09:24:39 PM
Bartok Tonal Symphony in F triple flat-and-a-half locrian

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 10:02:18 PM
Plinkovsky - Fantasy and Fugue on Themes by Schumann.
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 10:15:19 PM
Opera brillante by Chopin,
Sonata "Black Mass" by Medtner
Sonata no 10 by Rach ;)

and Nocturn by Bach of course.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 10:38:53 PM

Anything by Adrian Leverkuhn--s.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 11:37:18 PM
Chopin Fantasy in F-minor for piano and orchestra. This was planned by Liszt but never executed. I wonder how he would have done it.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 04:08:53 AM
Chopin Symphonia Contrappuntistica

Sorabji pedagogical piano music. The first volume: he's so darn good at writing music for those little four year olds and the 5 finger hand positions. Certainly a favorite of mine.

Bruckner Piano Concerto in g sharp minor Op.599
Beethoven-Alkan, concerto 3
Faure barcarolle 10
Mozart-Stradal, symphony 40

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #13 on: February 24, 2015, 02:02:36 PM
Debussy - Piano Concerto
Ravel - Sonata and Etudes
 

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #14 on: February 24, 2015, 05:39:26 PM
Actually there is Mysterium from Scriabin I think
Nemtin, actually; I'm no Scriabin scholar but doubt that there's more than a handful of mneasures of Scriabin in its 160 minutes of music that curioursly ends not dissimilarly to the revised version of Boulez's Dérive II in the way that everything gradually converges onto a loud unison.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 05:40:26 PM
Sonata "Black Mass" by Mednter
Who's that, then?

Anyway, to answer the question - one that I've not yet written...

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
Are you sure your favorite isn't the Schumann Piano Concerto No. 2?

What a horrid thought.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #17 on: February 25, 2015, 03:30:06 AM
Bach  - Quintuple fugue in 5 voices.

Chopin - 12 etudes for 2 pianos 4 hands.

Mozart - Tone cluster Sonata

Vierne - Symphony for organ and piano.

Bartok - Urban street noise folk dances.

Vivaldi - Global warming
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #18 on: February 25, 2015, 04:20:16 AM
Franck: 24 Preludes and Fugues for solo piano

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #19 on: February 25, 2015, 12:11:56 PM
Chopin: Piano Quintet In Memoriam Charles-Valentin Alkan and Franz Liszt, Op. 104 (1889).

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #20 on: February 25, 2015, 12:30:50 PM
Mahler XI

Or Mahler XII.  I guess it's a toss up.
Favorite new teacher quote -- "You found the only possible wrong answer."

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #21 on: February 25, 2015, 05:07:50 PM
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Nemtin, actually; I'm no Scriabin scholar but doubt that there's more than a handful of mneasures of Scriabin in its 160 minutes of music that curioursly ends not dissimilarly to the revised version of Boulez's Dérive II in the way that everything gradually converges onto a loud unison.

For what it is, it's not a waste of time. The authenticity of it is doubtful, but it has moments. Or maybe i'm attached to the theme of the 8th sonata which gets reused in that a fair bit. I find the first part of three parts the most convincing. I recently listened to it, and after all the years have passed it still has purpose.

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Mahler XI

Or Mahler XII.  I guess it's a toss up.

That's with the Das Lied in the equation or is there something i don't know about?
Beethoven-Alkan, concerto 3
Faure barcarolle 10
Mozart-Stradal, symphony 40

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #22 on: February 25, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
For what it is, it's not a waste of time. The authenticity of it is doubtful, but it has moments. Or maybe i'm attached to the theme of the 8th sonata which gets reused in that a fair bit. I find the first part of three parts the most convincing. I recently listened to it, and after all the years have passed it still has purpose.
I didn't and indeed wouldn't suggest that it's waste of time as such - just that hardly any of it is really Scriabin.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #23 on: February 26, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
Very true Alistair - hardly any of it is by Scriabin and more importantly, as it seems to not have been mentioned yet, the large-scale completion by Nemtin is merely that of the 'Prefatory Act' to the what-would-have-been 'Mysterium.' I didn't quite catch the perfumes and dancers in that Nemtin recording!

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #24 on: February 26, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Chopin - Etude No. 28 "Catastrophic Tsunami"  

Beethoven - The Apocalypse

Anyone - Piece for 100 pianos

You might have seen one of my videos without knowing it was that nut from the forum
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #25 on: February 26, 2015, 07:50:09 PM
Schubert - Piano concerto  ;)
Chopin etudes op.10 No 1,3,12 op.25 No 12
Schumann and Grieg piano concertos A minor
Beethoven sonatas No.17, No.14
Rachmaninoff prelude B minor
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #26 on: February 26, 2015, 09:53:32 PM
Schubert - Piano concerto  ;)
nope. sorry. it exists. and it's wonderful.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #27 on: February 26, 2015, 10:12:28 PM
Berlioz/Not-Liszt solo transcription of Symphonie fantastique*

*Duchable's manner of playing what's listed as Liszt is so heavily revised it may as well be Berlioz/Duchable. It is not published :(

Gottschalk sonatas

Godowsky - Concerto for the left hand, original Etudes, Paganini etudes

Debussy sonata

Mature piano works from Berlioz & Wagner

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #28 on: February 26, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
nope. sorry. it exists. and it's wonderful.


Sorry to burst your bubble but that is just an arrangement of Schubert's Fantasie in F-moll for Four Hands. Schubert only wrote it for piano four hands. It wasn't even published while he was living.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #29 on: February 26, 2015, 10:27:08 PM
Agreed with alistaircrane4
There isn't official piano concerto by Schubert. Sorry mister  ???
Chopin etudes op.10 No 1,3,12 op.25 No 12
Schumann and Grieg piano concertos A minor
Beethoven sonatas No.17, No.14
Rachmaninoff prelude B minor
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #30 on: February 26, 2015, 11:51:02 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble but that is just an arrangement of Schubert's Fantasie in F-moll for Four Hands. Schubert only wrote it for piano four hands. It wasn't even published while he was living.
no bubble. Looks. Sounds. Plays like a concerto.  It is schuberts music. It is piano and orchestra. Dmitri just helped bring it to market.   It's a concerto to me.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #31 on: February 27, 2015, 12:02:56 AM
no bubble. Looks. Sounds. Plays like a concerto.  It is schuberts music. It is piano and orchestra. Dmitri just helped bring it to market.   It's a concerto to me.
lol xD I'm sorry, But it's fantasy which wasn't arrangement by Schubert. By the way I'm not sure if it have form like concerto (didn't listen it full) from a music professional point of view it is not piano concerto of Schubert.  ??? :P
Chopin etudes op.10 No 1,3,12 op.25 No 12
Schumann and Grieg piano concertos A minor
Beethoven sonatas No.17, No.14
Rachmaninoff prelude B minor
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #32 on: February 27, 2015, 12:52:55 AM
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Berlioz/Not-Liszt solo transcription of Symphonie fantastique*

*Duchable's manner of playing what's listed as Liszt is so heavily revised it may as well be Berlioz/Duchable. It is not published Sad

I wouldn't mind getting my paws on that, certainly.

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Godowsky's 10/5 tarantella is horrific. Don't let the 8th notes fool you.
The Rossini/Liszt is usually where I go in a Tarantella mood.

I tried to find Duchable playing this Berlioz of which you speak, i don't have the recording. But i did find him making a fine demonstration of that Tarantella which is new to me. I did enjoy it.
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #33 on: February 27, 2015, 01:15:35 AM
I'm not sure if it have form like concerto

And what "form" is that?

EDIT: It also seems that some people think one exists (though you may be disappointed by the reality).

https://www.last.fm/music/The+Cleveland+Orchestra/Grieg+Piano+Concerto+&+Schubert+Piano+Concerto
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #34 on: February 27, 2015, 02:04:37 AM
I tried to find Duchable playing this Berlioz of which you speak, i don't have the recording.



/\ Best piano fantastique on record. Second best is Christopher O'Riley.
I bought this CD of the Duchable, but it's now out of print and hard to find.
https://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=58017&album_group=14

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #35 on: February 27, 2015, 02:30:44 AM
Scarlatti sonata no. 1223, A minor, adagio.

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #36 on: February 27, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
Scarlatti sonata no. 1223, A minor, adagio.

And of course everything that goes between 555 and that  ;)

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #37 on: February 27, 2015, 07:16:11 PM
I think it would be neat if Scarlatti reached # 1337. 
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #38 on: February 27, 2015, 08:20:35 PM
I think it would be neat if Scarlatti reached # 1337. 

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Reply #39 on: February 27, 2015, 09:45:23 PM
Actually, waking up this morning, I was wishing for Scarlatti nos. 556-19,947.

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Reply #40 on: February 27, 2015, 11:10:17 PM
Of all the people who one might wish to have written more in a particular form, surely Scarlatti and Sonatas are the least likely candidates. If 555 ain't enough, join a twelve step program.  :P
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #41 on: February 28, 2015, 01:15:48 AM
Of all the people who one might wish to have written more in a particular form, surely Scarlatti and Sonatas are the least likely candidates. If 555 ain't enough, join a twelve step program.  :P
I'm dying XD

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Reply #42 on: February 28, 2015, 05:53:03 AM
Of all the people who one might wish to have written more in a particular form, surely Scarlatti and Sonatas are the least likely candidates. If 555 ain't enough, join a twelve step program.  :P

They offer those for Scarlatti addicts?

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #43 on: February 28, 2015, 05:59:47 AM
They offer those for Scarlatti addicts?


I'd assumed you were already getting leaflets and visits.
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #44 on: February 28, 2015, 06:06:08 AM
I love Beethovens Pathetic Sonata for piano.
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #45 on: February 28, 2015, 06:11:09 AM
I'd assumed you were already getting leaflets and visits.
Seems I am not alone in my addiction, so maybe they've been busy elsewhere?

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #46 on: February 28, 2015, 06:12:58 AM
I love Beethovens Pathetic Sonata for piano.

Not so fond of his Apostrophe Sonata?
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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #47 on: February 28, 2015, 06:22:18 AM
Not so fond of his Apostrophe Sonata?
Or his Template one?...

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Re: Favorite work that does not exist.
Reply #48 on: February 28, 2015, 07:07:11 AM
Or the Pastry Sonata?

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Reply #49 on: February 28, 2015, 07:27:19 AM
I really prefer his Hummerklavier.
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