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Topic: Liszt B minor alternate ending  (Read 1627 times)

Offline billyfisher100

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Liszt B minor alternate ending
on: March 26, 2015, 07:16:04 AM
Hi all,

Does anyone know where I might be able to find the alternative presto ending to the Liszt B minor? I know it was taken out after the manuscript was published, but I would be grateful if anyone could direct me to the original.

Thanks!

Offline 8_octaves

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Re: Liszt B minor alternate ending
Reply #1 on: March 26, 2015, 09:21:07 AM
Hi,

do you mean the crossed out parts from the manuscript, which we can see on WP?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonata_in_B_minor_%28Liszt%29

The manuscript should be on IMSLP. Problem could perhaps be, to read the notes in spite of the crosses.

Henle is preparing this one:

https://www.henle.de/en/detail/index.html?Title=Klaviersonate+h-moll_3227

Perhaps they are going to make previously unreadable parts readable again? But exactly one cannot tell what they do until the edition appears. It'll be E 119,- .

Whether there are / will be other resources to find a well readable version or not, including the previously crossed out (or / and  modified) parts, I don't know. Maybe other forum-members can help here with info,

or maybe some private person from the web has managed via photoshop and then musical notation program etc. to make up such a version?

Cordially, 8_octaves!
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The artist listens for that which is well done,
the person who knows nothing listens for the faults." (T. Carreño, quoting her 2nd teacher, Gottschalk.)

Offline j_menz

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Re: Liszt B minor alternate ending
Reply #2 on: March 26, 2015, 11:31:03 AM
Problem could perhaps be, to read the notes in spite of the crosses.


Of the various mss I've come across (and sometimes tried to play from) this one looks eminently readable, crossings out notwithstanding. Much better than most.
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Offline ahinton

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Re: Liszt B minor alternate ending
Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 11:42:17 AM
Hi,

do you mean the crossed out parts from the manuscript, which we can see on WP?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonata_in_B_minor_%28Liszt%29

The manuscript should be on IMSLP. Problem could perhaps be, to read the notes in spite of the crosses.

Henle is preparing this one:

https://www.henle.de/en/detail/index.html?Title=Klaviersonate+h-moll_3227

Perhaps they are going to make previously unreadable parts readable again? But exactly one cannot tell what they do until the edition appears. It'll be E 119,- .

Whether there are / will be other resources to find a well readable version or not, including the previously crossed out (or / and  modified) parts, I don't know. Maybe other forum-members can help here with info,

or maybe some private person from the web has managed via photoshop and then musical notation program etc. to make up such a version?

Cordially, 8_octaves!
For further information, why not write to the UK Liszt Society? For contact details, see https://www.lisztsoc.org.uk/contact.htm

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Alistair
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Offline liszt1022

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Re: Liszt B minor alternate ending
Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 03:48:11 PM
The orignal (crossed-out) ending is typeset in the Dover book in the explanatory notes.
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