In search for a prelude

[chechig]

Hi, I'm an intermediate student, now I'm learning Sancta Dorothea by Liszt and Reverie by Debussy. I need your wise advice, I'm trying to find a beautiful prelude. For some reasons, it cant' be any prelude by Bach, Chopin, Scriabin, Debussy, I would like to find a beautiful prelude but from a composer not so famous. For example, number 1 of Mompou's preludes is the kind of piece I want. Not too long, not very difficult and beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Afuqy_obo

[diomedes]

I suppose something like Rachmaninov is not allowed either as a result? Maybe the Bach-Siloti Prelude in b minor? For some reason i can't think of much more right now.

[chechig]

You're right, Rachmanonov is not a good idea, basically cause is too difficult. I would love to play his music
Thanks anyway

[8_octaves]

Hi,

from the "small" suite "Espana", op. 165, of Albeniz, here's the "Prelude", played by Esteban Sanchez:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZDY_XKn29I

https://imslp.org/wiki/Espa%C3%B1a,_Op.165_%28Alb%C3%A9niz,_Isaac%29

Cordially, 8_oct!

[chechig]

8 oct, I love it, I run to try it!!!
Did you know I'm Spanish?

[8_octaves]

8 oct, I love it, I run to try it!!!
Did you know I'm Spanish?

No, but you mentioned Mompou, who is from Barcelona, and I knew the "Espana"-Suite of Albeniz. 

The other pieces from the "Espana"-Suite are very nice, too, I think, and the Prelude isn't too difficult!

In the suite, there's the very famous "Tango", too, and a very nice "Malaguena".

The suite itself can be ranked as follows:

There are 3 well known suites of Albeniz (and 1 or 2 less well known ones):

Espana (small / not too difficult), Suite Espanola (medium / demanding), Iberia (long and hard).

Have fun, and greetings from Germany to Spain (have got family-friends there, in San Feliu de Codinas, but looong time no see!  ) from

8_oct!

[stevensk]

-Scriabin? Kapustin?

[chechig]

Yes, I love Albeniz's music, but until recently I didnt' even think of playing it, too difficult. I've played some Turina and Granados, the easiest one's
I live on the other side of the Pirenees, in San Sebastian
Scriabin and Kapustin, I'll have a look.
Thanks a lot

[8_octaves]

Yes, I love Albeniz's music, but until recently I didnt' even think of playing it, too difficult. I've played some Turina and Granados, the easiest one's
I live on the other side of the Pirenees, in San Sebastian
Scriabin and Kapustin, I'll have a look.
Thanks a lot

Hi chechig!

That's very interesting! Turina..hmm.. I don't think I've many works of him here, but of Granados, I some time ago downloaded the Spanish dances, but printed only the first 6 of them out, because there's the famous "Andaluza", Nr.5, in them, which I somewhen years ago have played one or two times, but then the score of it had disappeared  - so I "refreshed" it via the IMSLP-version, where the "Andaluza" is on page 19 of the pdf:

https://javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/7/78/IMSLP01200-Granados_Spanish_Dances.pdf

Furthermore I got a fine 1986 reprint of the two volumes "Goyescas". I have them as originals, not as pdf. The pdf's of the old edition can be, if someone should be interested, downloaded here:

Vol. I: https://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000059858&page=1
Vol. II: https://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000138630&page=1

Please note: Don't use the "download-option" of the pdf-viewer, but look on the left side of the screen: There's a small blue disk-symbol, via which the FULL file can be downloaded.-

@chechig : Nice to hear from where you are! The Goyescas-volumes which I have came into my mind, because I got them via our family-friends, who must have bought them in Barcelona and must have sent them to us ( = to Germany ) somewhen yeears ago.. There's an indenter / stamp in both of the volumes, which says:

"Casa Beethoven, Rambla Sant Josep, 97 / 08002 Barcelona." And a handwritten price(?) "1600-" (for the first vol., and "1100-" for the second volume.

But I don't look too often into the volumes, because they are soooo hard to play. But what I found very interesting, was the stamp, so I mentioned my volumes here.  Maybe the shop still exists? Who knows.. .

Cordial greetings from: 8_octaves!

 

[chechig]

Hi chechig!

That's very interesting! Turina..hmm.. I don't think I've many works of him here, but of Granados, I some time ago downloaded the Spanish dances, but printed only the first 6 of them out, because there's the famous "Andaluza", Nr.5, in them, which I somewhen years ago have played one or two times, but then the score of it had disappeared  - so I "refreshed" it via the IMSLP-version, where the "Andaluza" is on page 19 of the pdf:

 

Hi 8 octaves, thanks for the info.
There is plenty of beautiful spanish music, but as I mentioned, very difficult, at least for me.
There is this op by Grandados, not that difficult, I played "Dedicatoria" very nice.

https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Estudios_expresivos_en_forma_de_piezas_f%C3%A1ciles_%28Granados,_Enrique%29

I bought this book by Turina, not all the pieces are difficult. I learnt Danza ritual, and I'm thinking of learning "Danza de la seducción" and "Generalife" , really nice (I didn't buy it there, is far more expensive of what I paid, but there is the song list)


https://www.musicroom.com/se/id_no/0705626/details.html

From Falla I studied Canción, the score was difficult to find, the last part it's a bit tricky to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dElw1wRQ20E

Regards!

[mjames]

"I am in search of a prelude by a not so famous composer"

And some of you guys answer with rachmaninov and scriabin. Like seriously, really? That's the best you can do? Lmfao cmon

Anyways try some liadov, bortkowiecz, and hummel preludes.

[chechig]

Thanks for your reply. Not to mention the difficulty!!! Anyway, all answers are welcome
I love Bortkiewicz's music, but all the preludes I know are quite complicated, as far as I remember.
I found a nice one by Liadov. I'll have a look at Hummel's preludes

[mjames]

Are you sure lol? quite a number of bortkiewicz's preludes are accessible for an intermediate pianist.

[chopinlover01]

Gershwin?

[chechig]

Are you sure lol? quite a number of bortkiewicz's preludes are accessible for an intermediate pianist.

Ok, I'll have a look again, maybe I discover a less difficult one.
Could you tell me what lol means, please?
Chopinlover, Gershwin is not the kind of composer I'm looking for, but thank you anyway!

[visitor]

[visitor]

Edit
Whoops sorry I just read the intermediate part of the op post sorry

[8_octaves]

[...]From Falla I studied Canción, the score was difficult to find, the last part it's a bit tricky to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dElw1wRQ20E

Hi chechig,

that's a SUPER piece, I liked it very much!! Thank you for linking it!!

It may be in this volume, which I randomly.. found:

Manuel De Falla - Music For Piano Volume 2
ISBN 9780711961371
The second of two albums of piano music by Manuel De Falla. Includes: Cancion, Cortego De Gnomos, Vals-Capricho, Fantasia Baetica, and Canto De Los Remeros Del Vorga. Plus Dance Of The Miller's Wife and Dance Of The Corregidor (Danza Del Corregidor), from Three Cornered Hat.

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As far as preludes are concerned, I made up a short list of names who composed preludes of some kind. Of course I don't know how difficult they are, but perhaps one could find out via YT- recordings of these composers' preludes, whether one likes them or not? The list is in no way meant to be representative, I just came across some names while reading the Harenberg Klaviermusikführer. (Whose advantage compared to "wild searching through "preludes"-genre on IMSLP imho is, that there are some selected "relevant, but not too well known, though, composers" mentioned in the book.)

Isaac Albeniz (who wrote another, but longer(!) work, in the title of which "prelude" appears: "Prelude Azulejo" op. post.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0F4lkLlYvQ), Anatoli Alexandrow, C.V. Alkan, Anton Arenski, F. Busoni, G. Faure, C. Franck, Glasunow, Honegger, Kabalewski, Kirchner, Frank Martin, Bohuslav Martinu, Medtner, Messiaen, Moscheles, Poulenc, Reger, Rheinberger, Anton Rubinstein, Erik Satie, D. Schostakowitsch, Clara Schumann, K. Szymanowski, A. Tscherepnin.

Very cordially, 8_octaves.


 
 

[chechig]

Hi chechig,

that's a SUPER piece, I liked it very much!! Thank you for linking it!!

It may be in this volume, which I randomly.. found:


Very cordially, 8_octaves.
 

Hi 8octaves
Thanks a lot, you are very kind!! I think, I will learn The prelude by Albeniz you reccomended me, wonderful!!

No, that piece by Falla, took me a while to find. It's in the book "6 obras para piano"
https://www.megamusic.es/es/ediciones-musicales-detalles.asp?id=P0443

Thanks again

[8_octaves]

Hi 8octaves
Thanks a lot, you are very kind!! I think, I will learn The prelude by Albeniz you reccomended me, wonderful!!

No, that piece by Falla, took me a while to find. It's in the book "6 obras para piano"
https://www.megamusic.es/es/ediciones-musicales-detalles.asp?id=P0443

Thanks again

Warmly appreciated, chechig!   (But what, if there are 2 sources now? - Then Music has won one point, I think!   )

Many greetings, 8_octaves!

PS.: Pls note that the Gnome-dance is exactly aside from the "Cancion" in both sources...and that the "Vals-Capricho" also appears in both editions. But nevertheless: A VERY good find, chechig! And I at once "give in", if "my" "Cancion" shouldn't be "your" Cancion!  

The "Cancion" is listed in the works of De Falla as a single work, which we can see here:

https://www.klassika.info/Komponisten/Falla/wv_abc_C.html

There's the EDITOR given, too:

Titel:    Canción
Tonart:    c-moll
Entstehungszeit:    1900
Besetzung:    Klavier
Verlag:    Chester in: M. de Falla Music for piano Bd. 2

- and that's the source I had "tracked".  

Nevertheless: The piece itself, it's so colorful and nice...that's what is so interesting to me!!

We find on "Classica" a "Chanson", too, but the ("our")  exact title is "Cancion", if we rely on our infos, and thus, the "Cancion" should be the work in the 2nd volume of the mentioned Edition - AND in the "6 obras" - volume, too. If it's not the case, then I will retreat BEATEN   - and I'll have learned much!

Thank you very much, again, and cordially, 8_octaves!

[chechig]

Edit
Whoops sorry I just read the intermediate part of the op post sorry

Dont' worry, thanks, anyway

[ianw]

Going to www.pianosyllabus.com and entering Prelude into the Title field and 6 into the grade field yields a fair number of pieces by composers like Couperin, Faure, Scriabin, Shostakovich and others,  plus some names I'm not familiar with at all, some of which might be of interest. Other Grades yield different results of course.

[chechig]

Going to www.pianosyllabus.com and entering Prelude into the Title field and 6 into the grade field yields a fair number of pieces by composers like Couperin, Faure, Scriabin, Shostakovich and others,  plus some names I'm not familiar with at all, some of which might be of interest. Other Grades yield different results of course.

That's very interesting! Thanks a lot Ianw!

[chechig]

Hi people, just to tell you that finally I foud it!! Prelude n 10 by Maria Szymanowska, so beautiful, and not difficult at all. Thanks for all your help
If you dont know Maria, I reccomend you to listen to her music, it's a pity she's almost forgotten
This is the prelude, a real gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1xutPvK4Q