rach sonata or moment musicals

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Alright so yo...

My teacher was like 'alright so yo...  You shouldn't do the gaspard de la nuit until your senior year recital'.  And for your junior recital you're doing all new repertoire.

And I'm like 'bruh...'  

So I've been searching around and stuff, and I found two pieces that I would really wanna do in place of the ravel.  

That's the rach second sonata.  THE ORIGINAL VERSION.  Why the heck would anyone wanna learn the cut version?  Dude the original it totally where it's at.  The cut version is like going to a party and leaving at 10.  Or going to wholefoods or Costco and eating all the samples and saying that was your dinner.  Or when girls go to parties they where heels but when they take group pictures they crouch.  

And the second is the moment musicals.

NOW...

I would imagine that overall the sonata is harder, but the moment musicals are freaking SIX PIECES.  And I haven't done a set of pieces like that before.

Anyways, what do you guys think would be the faster choice.

[visitor]

Do the set of mm
There is tremendous value in learning how to handle sets. It area you up to do suites and whole op of preludes etc later on
Practicality in the recital the pacing allows you to reset and recompose yourself as you work through them
Also as you said. They are pretty legit aren't they

[chopinlover01]

I prefer the MM myself. Some of those are quite lovely, other quite virtuosic.

[j_menz]

I suppose it having to be Sergei was inevitable. 

You get more contrast out of the Moments Musicaux, so probably a better choice to show your abilities. Though if you're going to learn them, you should probably get the name right.

[mjames]

Be a man and play the Forgotten Melodies set by Medtner. Seriously though, go for the MM set.

[diomedes]

Or go Hulk Hogan balls and do the entire Op.39.

I think both decisions are sound. The grandeur of the C major and melodies from b flat minor are indescribable in Op.16, it's a big set regardless when compared to the sonata.

It's Rachmaninov, you'll never regret either choice. Just be sure to listen to Lazar Berman playing the op.16 before deciding, i think it's something to avoid missing.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

, i think it's something to avoid missing.

Hahaha something to avoid missing...

Yeah I've heard them.  They're good but I don't LOVE it.  I really like his third and 5th ones.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

I suppose it having to be Sergei was inevitable. 

You get more contrast out of the Moments Musicaux, so probably a better choice to show your abilities. Though if you're going to learn them, you should probably get the name right.

Musicaux musicals same thing

[j_menz]

Musicaux musicals same thing

One moment musical, two moments musicaux.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

One moment musical, two moments musicaux.

Yeah yeah yeah pish posh pish posh

[rob47]

Or go Hulk Hogan balls and do the entire Op.39.

lol! yes do this


but, out of your your two choices i'd recommend the sonata (the 1931 edited version); one can learn it way quicker and have more time for other things

[visitor]

if you finish w/ either of these (ie finale to the recital/2nd half). i would suggest having a rad encore up your sleeve. you might want to look at Alexandrov Op 110 No 3 "Etude" (In memoriam Sergei Rachmaninoff)

*whole set, here's the order:
Victor Bunin, piano - performer
1.- Prelude (In memoriam Samuil Feinberg)
2.- Tender Image (In Memoriam Alexander Scriabin)
3.- Etude (In Memoriam Sergei Rachmaninov)
4.- Fairy Tale (In Memoriam Nikolai Medtner)
5.- Epilogue (Self Portrait)

I would also consider the others as encore if a work by them is featured in other performances (ie Scriabin, Feiberg, Medtner, of course composer himself Alexandrov)

[diomedes]

Interesting, I'm listening to that Alexandrov Op.110 right now, never heard of this.

[chopinlover01]

but, out of your your two choices i'd recommend the sonata (the 1931 edited version)

If you're going to take on a big ass project like that one (even the edited one), you're clearly investing a large sum of time anyways; why not go all the way?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

if you finish w/ either of these (ie finale to the recital/2nd half). i would suggest having a rad encore up your sleeve. you might want to look at Alexandrov Op 110 No 3 "Etude" (In memoriam Sergei Rachmaninoff)

*whole set, here's the order:
Victor Bunin, piano - performer
1.- Prelude (In memoriam Samuil Feinberg)
2.- Tender Image (In Memoriam Alexander Scriabin)
3.- Etude (In Memoriam Sergei Rachmaninov)
4.- Fairy Tale (In Memoriam Nikolai Medtner)
5.- Epilogue (Self Portrait)

I would also consider the others as encore if a work by them is featured in other performances (ie Scriabin, Feiberg, Medtner, of course composer himself Alexandrov)

Aaaaaye I'd totally be down for this this is tight.

Also I looked at the first sonata today and it dwarfs the second

[symphonicdance]

I guess generally speaking, op 16 will likely be much easier to handle than op 36 for both the performer and the audience.

I heard Lazar Berman playing op 16 at a recital many years ago, and it was a very enjoyable evening.