What's something a little less than a Chopin etude?

[Bob]

I'm not going to invest six months focusing solely on a piece for a Chopin etude.

What's a step below that?  It's in my mind somewhere.  I'm just blanking on it.  I've got the music though.... It's somebody's collection of intermediate etudes I think I'm thinking of....

[Bob]

Moszkowsiki... Maybe that was it.

Or it was something with Kramer or Moscheles...

[michael_sayers]

Hi Bob,

I'm not going to invest six months focusing solely on a piece for a Chopin etude.

Why not? One can do some easy to medium level pieces in a short span of time . . . and one or two challengers over a long span of time . . . and then, all put together, there is a nice recital for a church or community, one's friends, et c. . . .

What's a step below that?  It's in my mind somewhere.  I'm just blanking on it.  I've got the music though.... It's somebody's collection of intermediate etudes I think I'm thinking of....

Raff's Etude Melodique 130 No. 1 comes to mind.

Emanuel Moor's Prelude Op. 71 No. 1 is a masterpiece [it isn't an etude, though, and it is Adagio, so this doesn't really apply to your purpose here . . . it was spontaneously thought of for some reason in this moment]

There are two, without links, and in one thread.

Just kidding . . LOL

Here is the Emanuel Moor . . .

https://petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/f/f2/IMSLP62148-SIBLEY1802.2564.9d5a-39087012349751op71.pdf

And here is the Raff

https://petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/a/ae/IMSLP93584-PMLP139241-JRaff_Etude_Melodique__Op.130_No.1.pdf

I hope that this is not considered spam because I included links!

There also is the first set of Alkan etudes to consider . . .

https://imslp.org/wiki/12_Etudes_in_All_the_Major_Keys,_Op.35_%28Alkan,_Charles-Valentin%29


Mvh,
Michael

[michael_sayers]

Hi Bob,

Maybe you are thinking of Sinding's Frühlingsrauschen, Op. 32, No. 3?

https://javanese.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/3/3e/IMSLP183455-SIBLEY1802.8208.b6ca-39087012351757voices.pdf


Mvh,
Michael

[michael_sayers]

Moszkowsiki... Maybe that was it.

Or it was something with Kramer or Moscheles...

Hi Bob,

Most of Moszkowski's Etudes are more difficult than the Chopin Etudes, in my opinion, because of the need at times for sheer and ultimate speed to achieve certain sheens of sound.  Very daunting.

Henselt wrote a lot of etudes, as did Thalberg.


Mvh,
Michael

[mjames]

Hi Bob,

Most of Moszkowski's Etudes are more difficult than the Chopin Etudes, in my opinion, because of the need at times for sheer and ultimate speed to achieve certain sheens of sound.  Very daunting.

Henselt wrote a lot of etudes, as did Thalberg.


Mvh,
Michael

But there are also his petite etudes, which in terms of scope and difficulty they're much lower than his virtouso etudes. Maybe Bob's talking about them? I'v tried out one of them and I've read through pretty much all of the petite etudes, so I think it's safe to say that they are accessible for intermediate+ pianists yet still pose as a pretty big challenge.

[michael_sayers]

But there are also his petite etudes, which in terms of scope and difficulty they're much lower than his virtouso etudes. Maybe Bob's talking about them? I'v tried out one of them and I've read through pretty much all of the petite etudes, so I think it's safe to say that they are accessible for intermediate+ pianists yet still pose as a pretty big challenge.

Maybe Bob knows off-hand the publisher of the collection?

[michael_sayers]

Maybe someone here knows which of the threads is for the Blanchet?  I want to post the link for the recording to another website, and if someone knows off hand of the thread number it would save me a lot of time searching for it - especially as the threads keep moving around . . . LOL

[michael_sayers]

Maybe someone here knows which of the threads is for the Blanchet?  I want to post the link for the recording to another website, and if someone knows off hand of the thread number it would save me a lot of time searching for it - especially as the threads keep moving around . . . LOL

Never mind, it was #13 . . . I was sure it was #10 through #12, and then I searched backwards before checking the last one posted . . . LOL

So, yeah, I'll wait a while before adding any more.

[j_menz]

Never mind, it was #13 . . . I was sure it was #10 through #12, and then I searched backwards before checking the last one posted . . . LOL

So, yeah, I'll wait a while before adding any more.

And you still maintain the titles are OK? 

[michael_sayers]

And you still maintain the titles are OK? 

They are ok, but only ok.  Not very useful in such quantity all at once and on the same page, in my opinion.

Maybe I should repost everything as new threads, with the titles specifying composer, composition and pianist?

[j_menz]

They are ok, but only ok.  Not very useful in such quantity all at once and on the same page, in my opinion.

Maybe I should repost everything as new threads, with the titles specifying composer, composition and pianist?

Maybe you should email nilsjohan and get him to change the titles.

[michael_sayers]

Maybe you should email nilsjohan and get him to change the titles.

That is a good idea!  Thanks.

[chopinlover01]

Why not just play one of the slower "touch" based etudes? The E flat minor is a lovely one.
Additionally, the F minor 25/2 isn't ridiculous. You probably wouldn't have to spend several months on those two if you really know how to practice them.

[Bob]

I worked on a piece last summer and part of the fall.  Spent way more time on it than I was expecting.  Never quite finished it.  I just don't want to invest that much time into one piece like that.  Or can't or shouldn't.  Work on one piece for several months, do a performance that doesn't really matter -- Under ten minutes of so-so playing after how many months?  I'd like to work on a piece again (or two or three) but I don't want to give up my routine either.

I need more time....

[chopinlover01]

It's not a waste- after all, time spent with pianos is never wasted

[ganymedger]

The Prelude in G major Op.28 by Chopin is a good preparation for the Revolutionary Etude .

[visitor]

read through this a few times, on a long term 'to do' stack off to the side of my main scores (current works/progressing)
love this. short. dramatic. doesn't require too much, a bit, but not that much
atually Arensky, doesn't get enough cred. One of my top notch in my Russians category

Twenty-four Characteristic Pieces op.36-4 "Petit Ballade"

[chopinlover01]

The Prelude in G major Op.28 by Chopin is a good preparation for the Revolutionary Etude .

Personally I find that prelude to be much harder than 10/12, since that ridiculously fast left hand line (with no real comfortable fingering, I might add) has to also be soft and light.

[mjames]

Personally I find that prelude to be much harder than 10/12, since that ridiculously fast left hand line (with no real comfortable fingering, I might add) has to also be soft and light.

but it's two pages long instead of 10+.

[hardy_practice]

Chopin himself set Cramer and Moscheles.

[Bob]

Yeah, it was Moszkowski.  I found the book I was thinking of, or its whereabouts....

Still thinking.... A "name brand" composer would be good too.  More mileage out it possibly... 


Or maybe something by Shostakovich or Scriabin...

[Bob]

Maybe a Moscheles etude... Although that's more for the name.  Haha. 

[ganymedger]

Maybe try one of the debussy etudes. They are easier than the Chopin Etudes. At least thats what a professional pianist has told me.

[brogers70]

My teacher has given me a bunch of Cramer Etudes as preparation fro the Chopin ones.

[Bob]

Maybe.  Or Haydn. Forgot about him.

And there were some jazz etudes I remember...

[pencilart3]

What's something a little less than a Chopin etude?

A CHOPIN PRELUDE

[visitor]

Milan Dvorak jazz etudes books 1 and 2 are fun not too hard, not easy but decent in difficulty
Ie

This bossa nova one is pretty too