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Offline korlock

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I've finally gotten to the point where I am making progress with Clair de lune. What pieces would you say are have technical demand?

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #1 on: June 07, 2015, 04:26:44 AM
Explore some Delius
Although not super tough on the surface it is much more difficult to pull off well
There is subtlety of timeing and some really delicate imagery that takes lots of experience together
His music is whispy like thing clouds and fog or light smoke and you get an image but very quickly poof it can be gone

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #2 on: June 07, 2015, 04:38:08 AM

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #3 on: June 07, 2015, 04:57:29 AM
Just the impressionistic era?
If so, check out Ravel.
Minuet on the name of Haydn-

This doesn't have much (if any) real technical demand, but I could imagine tone would be the major trouble here. It was actually written as a sight reading exercise for the Conservatory of Paris

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #4 on: June 11, 2015, 03:41:25 AM
hmmm

Chopin's Nocturnes
Beethoven's Easier Sonatas
Mozart's Sonatas
Mozart's Fantasies
Chopin's Easier Etudes
Chopin's Preludes
Haydn's Sonatas
Debussy's Children's Corner
Debussy's Arabesque 1 & 2
Debussy's Preludes Bk.1
Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier Bk.1
Bach's Fuguettas
Debussy's Pour le Piano

I'm currently mastering Clair de lune right now. It's a beautiful piece; I think if someone played Clair de Lune if I'm depressed, I'll become the warthog and Timon in The Lion King.

Christ, the Lion King's so old....

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #5 on: June 11, 2015, 03:42:15 AM
hmmm

Chopin's Nocturnes
Beethoven's Easier Sonatas
Mozart's Sonatas
Mozart's Fantasies
Chopin's Easier Etudes
Chopin's Preludes
Haydn's Sonatas
Debussy's Children's Corner
Debussy's Arabesque 1 & 2
Debussy's Preludes Bk.1
Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier Bk.1
Bach's Fuguettas
Debussy's Pour le Piano

I'm currently mastering Clair de lune right now. It's a beautiful piece; I think if someone played Clair de Lune if I'm depressed, I'll become the warthog and Timon in The Lion King.

Jesus, the Lion King's so old....


I made an account and hadn't used it in a year. Welcome back, kevon.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #6 on: June 12, 2015, 08:20:47 AM
We can't leave out Charles Griffes!




Mvh,
Michael

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #7 on: July 19, 2015, 06:07:10 AM
Hi

Here's a great list of piano pieces sorted by difficulty clair de lune is rated at a 7 I believe and around it you'll see several Debussy pieces and pieces by other composers with the same difficulty https://www.pianoworld.com/Uploads/files/Graded_Pieces_Sorted_By_Difficulty.PDF



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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #8 on: July 19, 2015, 07:37:58 AM
Grieg's Nocturne.  I have never played the piece, but I'd say its slightly easier than Clair de Lune.
Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12
Chopin - Fantasie Impromptu, Nocturn in C sharp minor, Op post
Brahms - Op 118, Nos 2 & 3

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #9 on: July 20, 2015, 01:59:38 AM
If you want to continue with Debussy, his 1st Arabesque and Nocturne (1892) are great choices.

Among Chopin works, I would recommend the posthumous Nocturne in C-sharp minor and the Raindrop Prelude.

From the classical era, I love Haydn's Adagio Cantabile, the second movement of his Piano Sonata in E-flat major Hob.XVI:49.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 02:05:32 AM
Please no, those Chopin pieces are played to death and a lot of people will die a little inside :/
Okay, a little over exaggerated... But seriously.
If you want Chopin, go for some of the easier nocturnes- you could do the Op 32 nocturnes. They'd be a nice piece of recital material, the two (B major and A flat major).
For classical, I'll recommend the Mozart Fantasy K. 397

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 02:09:39 AM
Please no, those Chopin pieces are played to death and a lot of people will die a little inside :/
Okay, a little over exaggerated... But seriously.

Part of the reason these works are overplayed is because they are playable.  I think the two works I chose are best representative of the level of difficulty of Clair de Lune.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #12 on: July 20, 2015, 06:06:15 AM
The prelude you mentioned is far below Clair de Lune. The nocturne is just a little under.
The pieces I mentioned are played far less and of much better thematic content, and it's refreshing to hear something outside of the same ten pieces everyone loves of Chopin.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #13 on: July 20, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
The prelude you mentioned is far below Clair de Lune. The nocturne is just a little under.
The pieces I mentioned are played far less and of much better thematic content, and it's refreshing to hear something outside of the same ten pieces everyone loves of Chopin.
Yes, Kissin played the A-flat nocturne at a recital in around 2012.
Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12
Chopin - Fantasie Impromptu, Nocturn in C sharp minor, Op post
Brahms - Op 118, Nos 2 & 3

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #14 on: July 20, 2015, 04:32:51 PM
You could also try some of the Brahms intermezzi- I think Op. 117 1 is at about the same level and Op. 118 2 is more difficult but would be a good challenge.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #15 on: July 20, 2015, 04:47:31 PM
have a look at number 1 from Richard Strauss op 3. read through this the other day, lovely pieces, love them actually and considering taking them as a set, but individually, good and on par with op inquiry

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #16 on: July 21, 2015, 05:39:06 AM
The prelude you mentioned is far below Clair de Lune. The nocturne is just a little under.
The pieces I mentioned are played far less and of much better thematic content, and it's refreshing to hear something outside of the same ten pieces everyone loves of Chopin.

+1 this entire post.

If you want a prelude try 1 or 11 imo.
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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #17 on: July 23, 2015, 01:59:41 AM
Played fairly often, but still worth learning. Schubert's Op 90.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #18 on: July 23, 2015, 03:25:28 AM
Take a look at the Ravel Pavane, or maybe Schumann Op. 15.

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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #19 on: July 23, 2015, 05:34:24 AM
Played fairly often, but still worth learning. Schubert's Op 90.

There are 4 works of Schubert's which are Op 90. Surely you don't mean that only one is "note"able...
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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #20 on: July 31, 2015, 04:01:22 AM
If you want to continue with Debussy, his 1st Arabesque and Nocturne (1892) are great choices.

Among Chopin works, I would recommend the posthumous Nocturne in C-sharp minor and the Raindrop Prelude.

From the classical era, I love Haydn's Adagio Cantabile, the second movement of his Piano Sonata in E-flat major Hob.XVI:49.
I recommend all of Chopin's Preludes and Mazurkas. For the classical era, I recommend the second movement of Mozart's K 280. For early Romantic, Beethoven Op.110.
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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #21 on: July 31, 2015, 04:34:28 AM
I recommend all of Chopin's Preludes

Are you even being serious? 3? 8? 12? 16? 19? 24?

Preludes similar to Claire de lune I would say are 1, 2, 11, 15, and 23.
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Re: Great pieces with similar difficulty to Clair de lune?
Reply #22 on: August 02, 2015, 02:51:46 PM
There are 4 works of Schubert's which are Op 90. Surely you don't mean that only one is "note"able...

Learn em all, I say!
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