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Offline diomedes

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Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
on: July 05, 2015, 01:13:12 PM
It's against my nature to draw attention to myself, but i figure i could at least try this once. Not sure what i intend to gain from it, but voila:



Beethoven-Alkan, concerto 3
Faure barcarolle 10
Mozart-Stradal, symphony 40

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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 03:05:21 PM
Sounds great. The piano is a bit heavy, but that's not your fault. You have a great technique, and a wonderful grasp of this piece musically. I'd slow down the cadenza 3 minutes into the video just a bit, you sort of gloss over the notes in that part.  Besides that, musically you have a wonderful grasp of this piece.

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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 08:39:21 PM
It's against my nature to draw attention to myself,
Haha really, with a blog about your Prokofiev 2 project and a YT name like OratorCicero ?
Anyway, impressive performance here, though IMO a little hard-driven, especially in the cadenzas.

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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #3 on: July 05, 2015, 11:18:56 PM
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Haha really, with a blog about your Prokofiev 2 project and a YT name like OratorCicero ?

The blog was an experiment, seemed like a good idea for someone preoccupied with technical problem solving. In hindsight, i continue to wonder if i'd do it again. Roman culture at the time preoccupied me greatly when i had to find a youtube account, and good speaking is comparable to communicative playing in some ways.

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though IMO a little hard-driven, especially in the cadenzas.

One's approach can't be ideal for everyone because everyone has different criteria for what is convincing, but all the same interesting to hear a point of view.
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The piano is a bit heavy, but that's not your fault. You have a great technique, and a wonderful grasp of this piece musically. I'd slow down the cadenza 3 minutes into the video just a bit, you sort of gloss over the notes in that part.

I should be fussier about recording quality, i agree, but i feel a distinguished performance is much more important than recording quality. The 2nd cadenza is marked velocissimo, people often play it somewhat slow. I took velocissimo as an invitation to measure what i could achieve with it technically.

Beethoven-Alkan, concerto 3
Faure barcarolle 10
Mozart-Stradal, symphony 40

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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #4 on: July 08, 2015, 08:31:57 PM
Very nice Diomedes! :) Post some more! (This says a person who gets annoyed when professional musicians post here. They (you) just get us regular mortals jealous!  >:(
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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #5 on: July 12, 2015, 02:28:26 PM
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Very nice Diomedes! Smiley Post some more! (This says a person who gets annoyed when professional musicians post here. They (you) just get us regular mortals jealous! 

You're too kind. I might post some Scriabin as i complete recordings if only to promote his music, although there's plenty of those already on the yt account.
Beethoven-Alkan, concerto 3
Faure barcarolle 10
Mozart-Stradal, symphony 40

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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #6 on: July 13, 2015, 04:51:44 AM
I LIKED it !!
though the recording seemed a bit "heavy" as if "hard-limited"
which would diminishing the differences between the soft and loud passages
and compromise expressiveness.
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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #7 on: July 16, 2015, 03:00:09 AM
GREAT!!  ;D  post more.

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Re: Liszt. Etude de concert nr.3, un sospiro
Reply #8 on: July 18, 2015, 08:41:19 PM
I haven't learned this piece yet but it's a piece that I want to learn, so take this for what it's worth:

* Yeah, I agree that the recording is a bit too loud, but that's a function of the piano you got and the microphone you got (for me, the piano I use is a Steinway Model B in a very large room and a camera with a video record function so I have the same problem too...if the camera's close then the sound is too loud, if I move it away then you hear a bunch of the echoes from the room). I think this piece though kind of loses the shimmering harp-like effect of the arpeggios because of it.
* In the arpeggios, I feel like your bass notes have a bit too much space around them. While musically it's natural to give a slight pause after playing the bass note (to let it resonate a bit before continuing with the arpeggios), it seems like you're adjusting the timing of the phrasing by playing the arpeggio at full speed, then pausing before playing the bass note. I think this latter gap should be smaller (i.e. I guess by slowing down the arpeggio as you descend, rather than by making the pause before the bass note bigger).
* At 1:20, it seems like after the melody notes are played, the part of the arpeggio on those same notes are too loud (I'm guessing it's because of the string still vibrating a lot from playing the melody notes). This almost makes it seem like the melody is eighth notes instead of quarter notes. It's particularly noticeable on the F# and A.
* I just noticed your adjusting your glasses as part of the switching hands effect. (Sometimes the hands switch places, sometimes they move up to adjust glasses!) Not necessarily a bad thing, just that it's more noticeable in this piece because of how much the hands move back and forth.
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