dcstudio, when I read your last comment, I had the impression that adodd had given very wrong information to the OP (esp. with words like "dishing out"), that he (she?) was saying to play Bach and not Czerny, and other things you mentioned. In fact, adodd's first advice was this:
Maybe Czerny op 599.
free download from the internet to either print or view online. It starts with very easy pieces and progresses, not massively musical, but a bit more then most exercises and has finger numbers so you can be sure you are playing the pieces correctly.
Starts of very simple, so also helpful for sight reading, if you can get through the pieces easy enough you can always go back and see if you can sight read earlier pieces to measure your progress.
They are also quite short so you can feel motivated by accomplishing the pieces in a reasonable time.
Adodd recommended Czerny! He gave specific reasoning for that choice. I would be sincerely interested in your point by point consideration of each of these ideas as a teacher, which you would recommend, which you would not recommend, and why.
It was
another member who spoke out against Czerny, and favoured Bach
I would skip Czerny and go for Bach. There is a book called Notebook to Anna Magdalena Bach. Play those and it will give you a solid basis to build upon.
When the OP wondered about that advice, Adodd was open minded enough to consider what torandrekongelf's reasons might have been, even though it went against his own initial advice. That is the post you responded to.
[Adodd's post as quoted: When I say other pieces I am referring to the real flourish of the piano era that was mid-late 17th and through the 18th century.
mid to late 17th century? the earliest existence of a piano was 1698 invented by Cristofori---it was an unknown instrument until an article was written in 1711.....
I am thinking that Adodd had the same mix-up that I often do - I think 1700's and write 17th century.
I checked up on my facts. From Wikki:
The Classical era, from about 1750 to 1820, established many of the norms of composition, presentation, and style, and was also when the piano became the predominant keyboard instrument.[/b]
I then looked up - at random - Haydn piano sonatas - the earliest is 1760. Beethoven was born in 1770. He composed for the piano. Chopin - still the 1800's. Given the quoted dates, I'm rather sure that the mid to late 1700's and the 1800's were meant.
... might want to get the facts straight before you start dishing out the expert opinions.
In recent posts I seem to be detecting an unhappiness about "non-experts" (non teachers?) giving information or advice. First - I'd go by what is given rather than who is giving it. There are people calling themselves teachers who maybe shouldn't be, and others who don't teach but one really wishes they would.
But yes, an experienced knowledgeable teacher who takes the time to consider a question and give advice from experience, that is invaluable. The OP asked for advice and help. But when I look through the thread, I see no advice from any teacher anywhere in the thread. It would be a pleasure to read your own advice on the matter.
Seriously.
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