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Offline virdix92

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Islamey... cheats or ossias?
on: August 27, 2015, 10:43:21 PM

Hi :) I've listened many version of this piece, and I noticed that many pianists (kissin also, i think) don't play "filler notes" (I don't know how to call them in english) in the octaves passage at 1:46 (page 5, staff 2 in the score). I found only three performances on youtube where I can hear clearly these notes (and they're slow performances).. Is this a cheat or an ossia written by balakirev?? thank you and sorry for my bad english :)


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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 03:42:23 AM
Quote from: virdix92 on August 27, 2015, 10:43:21 PM

Hi :) I've listened many version of this piece, and I noticed that many pianists (kissin also, i think) don't play "filler notes" (I don't know how to call them in english) in the octaves passage at 1:46 (page 5, staff 2 in the score). I found only three performances on youtube where I can hear clearly these notes (and they're slow performances).. Is this a cheat or an ossia written by balakirev?? thank you and sorry for my bad english :)


Yes, Balakirev wrote the ossia.
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Offline virdix92

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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 06:49:46 AM
Quote from: outin on August 28, 2015, 03:42:23 AM
Yes, Balakirev wrote the ossia.

Do you know in which edition can I find it? In the free one there are'nt any ossias in the 2' staff...
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Offline virdix92

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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #3 on: August 28, 2015, 06:51:54 AM
P.S.
I'm talking about the RH octave passage!
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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #4 on: August 28, 2015, 08:01:12 AM
Quote from: virdix92 on August 28, 2015, 06:51:54 AM
P.S.
I'm talking about the RH octave passage!

I looked at my urtext edition by Könemann, but am away now, so cannot check again if we were on the same page...I can check tonight and send you a scan if you PM me.
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Offline virdix92

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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 08:12:15 AM
Quote from: outin on August 28, 2015, 08:01:12 AM
I looked at my urtext edition by Könemann, but am away now, so cannot check again if we were on the same page...I can check tonight and send you a scan if you PM me.
Ok tank you
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Offline evryali

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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #6 on: August 29, 2015, 03:24:40 AM
Mind sending me the pm for the score also.
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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #7 on: August 29, 2015, 06:49:24 AM
The page turns are very different in my score. So I had to listen to the recording to find the spot you are talking about. There is no Ossia on the RH.

It would be very good to specify measure numbers in the score to avoid confusion :)
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Re: Islamey... cheats or ossias?
Reply #8 on: August 29, 2015, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: outin on August 29, 2015, 06:49:24 AM
The page turns are very different in my score. So I had to listen to the recording to find the spot you are talking about. There is no Ossia on the RH.

It would be very good to specify measure numbers in the score to avoid confusion :)

Bars 77-78 and 81-82 :)
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