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Offline kypiano

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Most underrated classical pianist?
« on: September 12, 2015, 01:00:48 AM »
OK, unless you think you are as good as the well-known concert pianists, please don't write your own name ;D

There's plenty forums about underrated composers, etc. Who are the most underrated classical pianists? Note the word MOST.

When I mean highly rated, I mean Grigory Sokolov. There you go. Lang Lang and Hamelin are overrated IMAO, so don't compare yourselves to them ::)

OK, I'm bad at English, so you must reply.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #1 on: September 12, 2015, 03:08:24 AM »
Rafal Blechacz HANDS DOWN. I don't know what you mean by most underrated as he is thought of VERY highly by those who have discovered him, but IMO he doesn't get mentioned around here enough. Well he doesn't get mentioned at all.
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #2 on: September 12, 2015, 02:56:09 PM »
Rafal Blechacz HANDS DOWN. I don't know what you mean by most underrated as he is thought of VERY highly by those who have discovered him, but IMO he doesn't get mentioned around here enough. Well he doesn't get mentioned at all.

Keep on going!

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #3 on: September 12, 2015, 05:53:09 PM »
Andre LaPlante. EOC.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #4 on: September 12, 2015, 07:01:03 PM »
Eva Knardahl

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #5 on: September 13, 2015, 02:25:48 AM »
Pierre Buzon.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #6 on: September 13, 2015, 02:29:58 AM »
Sean Chen is fantastic. I mean I know he got third at the Cliburn but he's really great. Vadym Kholodenko won the cliburn and he's amazing. So I guess neither of them are technically "underrated", but they don't get any chatter.

Pascal Roge is excellent.

Anatol Ugorski has some creative ideas.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #7 on: September 13, 2015, 03:52:11 PM »
Sean Chen is fantastic. I mean I know he got third at the Cliburn but he's really great. Vadym Kholodenko won the cliburn and he's amazing. So I guess neither of them are technically "underrated", but they don't get any chatter.

Pascal Roge is excellent.

Anatol Ugorski has some creative ideas.



Emily won the Grand Prix at the Van Beethoven compettion and also the Not-so-grand Prix at the Cliburn COmpetition. We will remember you, Emily.

Offline kevonthegreatpianist

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #8 on: September 13, 2015, 06:05:16 PM »
Emily won the Grand Prix at the Van Beethoven compettion and also the Not-so-grand Prix at the Cliburn COmpetition. We will remember you, Emily.
I'm surprised that rubensteinmad hasn't replied yet 
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #9 on: September 13, 2015, 06:11:19 PM »
I'm surprised that rubensteinmad hasn't replied yet  
I'm not going to waste my time on a racist loser like Kyle.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #10 on: September 13, 2015, 06:19:08 PM »
I'm not going to waste my time on a racist loser like Kyle.
k den
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #11 on: September 13, 2015, 06:21:08 PM »
Emily won the Grand Prix at the Van Beethoven compettion and also the Not-so-grand Prix at the Cliburn COmpetition. We will remember you, Emily.

THE GRAND ANALOGY:


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Offline ajlongspiano

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #12 on: September 14, 2015, 05:09:08 PM »
Sergei Babayan for sure. I think he's the best living pianist there is. He's gotten a bit more exposure lately but he's not nearly as renowned as he should be.










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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #13 on: September 15, 2015, 09:35:11 AM »


1) Yeol eum son
2) Sukyeon Kim

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #14 on: September 15, 2015, 12:20:51 PM »
Lazar Berman, never attained the renown he deserved, but I find most of his recordings to be almost definitive, Liszt Sonata, TEs, Rach 3 for example and much more...

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #15 on: September 16, 2015, 02:47:19 AM »

1) Yeol eum son
2) Sukyeon Kim

Who the heck is Sukyeon Kim???

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #16 on: September 16, 2015, 03:50:25 AM »
Youri Egorov:




Offline cbreemer

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #17 on: September 16, 2015, 06:28:45 AM »
The late Eric Parkin. He specialized in a number of very diverse composers, like Poulenc, Ireland, Granados, Mayerl, Bax, and truly excelled in all of them. An immensely idiomatic and likeable pianist, especially endearing for blithely hitting a wrong note every now and then.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #18 on: September 16, 2015, 08:30:18 PM »
The late Eric Parkin. He specialized in a number of very diverse composers, like Poulenc, Ireland, Granados, Mayerl, Bax, and truly excelled in all of them. An immensely idiomatic and likeable pianist, especially endearing for blithely hitting a wrong note every now and then.

Thanks, you (and Parkin, of course) made my day. And pianists like him, who don't dwell on the old workhorses, are an amazing route towards discovering music (I'm having a blast with Baines, whom I didn't know).

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #19 on: September 16, 2015, 08:33:27 PM »
Parkin's playing never fails to make me smile. He has that certain je-ne-sais-qoi, playfulness and warmth. I guess he must have been a great guy to know and love.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #20 on: September 21, 2015, 10:29:41 AM »
Who the heck is Sukyeon Kim???

Ha, that was funny. Here she is:




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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #21 on: September 22, 2015, 12:51:46 AM »
Ha, that was funny. Here she is:





do you have a youtube channel? because I've heard of stevensk b4
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #22 on: September 22, 2015, 11:33:33 AM »
do you have a youtube channel? because I've heard of stevensk b4

-No, I dont. Must be someone else

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #23 on: September 22, 2015, 09:51:39 PM »
-No, I dont. Must be someone else

wait it was steven43758394759 or something like that.
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Offline schumaniac

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #24 on: September 24, 2015, 05:46:53 AM »
Ha, that was funny. Here she is:




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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #25 on: September 24, 2015, 11:51:58 PM »
Some far from well-known pianists whose work I thoroughly appreciate:


(Vittorio Forte)


(Joel Hastings)



(both Koji Attwood, formerly a poster here)

Offline rubinsteinmad

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #26 on: October 06, 2015, 02:13:57 AM »
I think Valentina Ignoshina is underrated, if you're talking about famous pianists. Her Chopin is widely watched, but barely anyone hears her play anything else.


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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #27 on: October 06, 2015, 02:33:21 AM »
Joachim Carr.

Start at Solveig's Song (between 3:00-4:00)


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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #28 on: October 07, 2015, 12:39:57 AM »
Josh Wright.

People don't take him seriously enough because he has that stereotypical "American name". HEY JOSH, CHANGE YOUR NAME TO YOSAF ASTANOV OR SOMETHING. IT WILL BOOST YOUR FAME LEVEL BY 2000%

Offline ajlongspiano

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #29 on: October 07, 2015, 12:44:48 AM »
Boom. Josh is my teacher, such a kind and insightful person as well as being incredible at the piano!

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #30 on: October 07, 2015, 01:24:09 AM »
Boom. Josh is my teacher, such a kind and insightful person as well as being incredible at the piano!

Do you take Skype or in-person lessons?

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #31 on: October 07, 2015, 01:27:29 AM »
Skype, but I met him in June for some live lessons.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #32 on: October 07, 2015, 01:28:35 AM »
Skype, but I met him in June for some live lessons.

Oh, Skype lessons must be harder, right?

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #33 on: October 07, 2015, 01:33:43 AM »
Sergei Babayan for sure.
Paul Barton needs more mainstream attention.
Josh Wright is also amazingly good, but he's gotten lots of attention here in the states if I recall correctly, especially in our musically deaf culture where musical kids are an almost extreme minority. Still though, I wouldn't mind seeing him play :D
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #34 on: October 07, 2015, 01:36:56 AM »
Sergei Babayan for sure.
Paul Barton needs more mainstream attention.
Josh Wright is also amazingly good, but he's gotten lots of attention here in the states if I recall correctly, especially in our musically deaf culture where musical kids are an almost extreme minority. Still though, I wouldn't mind seeing him play :D

OMG.... Daniil Trifonov was recommended by his teacher in Russia to learn from Sergei Babayan.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #35 on: October 07, 2015, 01:39:04 AM »
chopinlover1 - Babayan is totally the greatest ever. Just listen to his Rach 3.... http://www.opus3artists.com/artists/sergei-babayan

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #36 on: October 07, 2015, 04:39:39 AM »
http://www.opus3artists.com/artists/sergei-babayan

Sorry, but I always thought that movement sounded like a semi truck plowing through the orchestra pit.
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #37 on: October 11, 2015, 01:11:44 AM »
Fou T'song.



Leon Fleisher


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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #38 on: October 11, 2015, 03:33:53 AM »
Ivett Gyongyosi for sure

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #39 on: October 11, 2015, 05:06:37 AM »
^ LOL

Fou Ts'ong is GREAT. In China he's thought of as one of  the first great Chinese classical pianists- except he "fled" China and became much more cosmopolitan

Listen to his Scarlatti though
or Chopin Mazurkas
or Debussy, as you posted (Danseuses de Delphes)

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #40 on: October 11, 2015, 03:03:12 PM »
^ LOL

Fou Ts'ong is GREAT. In China he's thought of as one of the "OGs" - the first great Chinese classical pianists- except he "fled" China and became much more cosmopolitan, and thereby kinda frowned upon

Listen to his Scarlatti though
or Chopin Mazurkas
or Debussy, as you posted (Danseuses de Delphes)


We should make a list of great musicians who were killed themselves, or had close family who were killed/died/stopped short of their career by the Chinese Communist Party.

I'll start:
Fou T'song (3rd place of Chopin Competition)
Chen Gexin (composer of Rose Rose I Love You)
Chen Gang (Composer of Sunshine on Taxkorgan)
Ming Qiang-Li (4th prize at Chopin Competition)


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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #41 on: October 11, 2015, 03:16:36 PM »
We should make a list of great musicians who were killed themselves, or had close family who were killed/died/stopped short of their career by the Chinese Communist Party.

I'll start:
Fou T'song (3rd place of Chopin Competition)
Chen Gexin (composer of Rose Rose I Love You)
Chen Gang (Composer of Sunshine on Taxkorgan)
Ming Qiang-Li (4th prize at Chopin Competition)


Meanwhile Yin Chengzong learned how to "play the system" and didn't get killed, or tortured...


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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #42 on: October 11, 2015, 03:22:30 PM »
Meanwhile Yin Chengzong learned how to "play the system" and didn't get killed, or tortured...



IKR

I love the Yellow River Concerto, I just wish it wasn't considered a "political" Concerto. I think it is one of the most exciting Concerti ever written!

The 2nd movement is BEAUTIFUL, and the 3rd movement is just exquisite. It captures the guzheng's pearlness without being overly thick.

The 1st movement is really exciting, and the 4th movement's intro is SO COOL! Unfortunately, the composer decided to put in "The East is Red'. It is still a beautiful composition, but its too political.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #43 on: October 13, 2015, 08:13:16 PM »
way underrated. super consistent, better quality than a lot of other pianists that get more chatter. i enjoy a bunch of his recordings.

http://www.naxos.com/person/Jeno_Jando/339.htm

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #44 on: October 13, 2015, 08:34:02 PM »
way underrated. super consistent, better quality than a lot of other pianists that get more chatter. i enjoy a bunch of his recordings.

http://www.naxos.com/person/Jeno_Jando/339.htm


YES! Have you heard his Beethoven piano sonata recordings? They are the best IMO.
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #45 on: October 13, 2015, 08:38:00 PM »
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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #46 on: October 16, 2015, 02:08:38 PM »
people seem to forget how incredible Rosenthal was. certainly not unknown and def acknowledged in his day but most conversations remembering giants frm back in the day of the golden age of piano, I seldom see his name brought up unless in response to a comment i made specifically about him


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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #47 on: October 17, 2015, 02:33:30 AM »
[/youtube]

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OH MY GOD

he's like Pogorelich
except without the "once hailed as a genius" part

he also made some weird-ass videos like this

"iMovie and David Messulam present- directed by iMovie!"

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #48 on: October 17, 2015, 03:26:45 AM »
Christopher Falzone and Gabrielo Montero are great.

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Re: Most underrated classical pianist?
«Reply #49 on: October 19, 2015, 12:21:16 AM »
Edith Farnadi is pretty unknown.