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Topic: The Chinese Czerny Scam  (Read 1779 times)

Offline kypiano

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The Chinese Czerny Scam
on: September 19, 2015, 12:32:06 AM
https://imslp.org/wiki/Fantaisie_brillante_sur_des_airs_chinois,_Op.724_(Czerny,_Carl)


OK, so, does anyone know what this means? I'm terrible at Chinese, but I know that those Chinese words are NOT Romanized in the Wade-Giles OR Pinyin system. And, I think that most of the tunes in the Fantasia are FAKES. However, one seems pretty authentic. It is labeled "Toung Men Tchi Tchi Kho I Kho Mo". Any people know where Czerny got this? Anyone know of this folksong? Any other info?

Thanks,
Ky

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 12:50:31 AM
BTW the names of the other tunes in the Fantasia are:

Lon Li Hoang Y Te Ku Shi

Yn Khi Loui Tsai Nan Chan Tchi Yang

Toung Men Tchi Tchi Kho I Cou Mo


(1) I believe "Ku Shi" Might mean "Gu Shi", which means "story" in Mandarin Chinese.
(2) I believe "Tsai (Zai) Nan Chan" might refer to the "At the Nan Chan Temple".
(3) I don't know what "Toung" refers to, but I believe the rest might be "们 吃 吃 可 依 Cou? Ma?"

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 05:14:35 AM
Please stop spamming. Post in ONE thread only.

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
Please stop spamming. Post in ONE thread only.

YAAS No one cares about the stupid Fantasia Not-so-brilliante on Airs Chinois

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 04:16:24 PM
I doubt that's Chinese.

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 04:20:32 PM

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #6 on: September 19, 2015, 05:19:03 PM

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #7 on: September 19, 2015, 05:22:35 PM

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Re: The Chinese Czerny Scam
Reply #8 on: September 19, 2015, 08:05:50 PM
Maw
What does a distinguished 20th/21st century English composer have to do with this?

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