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Offline sneakydark123

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easy songs by chopin?
on: September 21, 2015, 02:04:34 AM
hey guys so i want to know some extremely easy songs by chopin, beethoven and mozart

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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #1 on: September 21, 2015, 03:06:02 AM
For Beethoven go with either Fur Elise or if you want something even easier there's a set of two sonatinas and the first one is so freaking easy, it has sort of an obscure catalogue name which is Kinsky Halm Anh 5.

For Mozart try anything from the Nannerl Book or London Notebook. If you want a sonata any movement of K 545 is relatively easy but difficult to perfect.

Chopin is harder generally but I believe there's a couple waltzes and mazurkas that aren't too bad but I'd take a look at his preludes Op. 28, The ones in E minor, B minor, A major and some others are fairly easy... for Chopin...
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Reply #2 on: September 21, 2015, 10:36:42 AM
Adding onto the previous post.

Chopin
Cantible Bb
Waltz E Major Op Posth
Waltz A Minor Op Posth
Prelude C Minor Op 28 No 20

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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #3 on: September 21, 2015, 11:39:03 AM
"I'm always chasing rainbows" is a neat song to play.

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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #4 on: September 21, 2015, 12:35:16 PM
"I'm always chasing rainbows" is a neat song to play.

also this

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Reply #5 on: September 21, 2015, 03:02:14 PM
As far as Chopin's SONGS go, Barry Manilow's "Could It Be Magic?" is about all you have. ;)

But in all seriousness, Mazurka Op. 67 No. 2 is pretty easy, and Preludes 4, 7, and 20 are very manageable. Or if you like darker pieces, try the 3rd movement of his 2nd sonata. You will recognize it immediately. :D


For Beethoven, the Rage Over a Lost Penny (he was pretty weird) isn't very hard, and Fur Elise is about as simple as a piano piece can be.


For Mozart, dare I mention "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star"? Hahaha, well the OP said extremely easy, so THERE'S EXTREMELY EASY for ya!!
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Reply #6 on: September 22, 2015, 04:05:53 AM
As far as Chopin's SONGS go, Barry Manilow's "Could It Be Magic?" is about all you have. ;)


Chopin wrote about 20 songs, but those are rarely performed...because clearly he was a lot better with the piano ;)

There are a few piano arrangements of these though.

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Reply #7 on: September 22, 2015, 04:13:45 AM
Seeing as I'm the only one who doesn't like to pick on people who confuse "song" with "piece" let me clear up the matter.

In the classical word a song is strictly "SUNG" that is they can come in different varieties but they are essentially a particular type of musical piece, not any musical piece. Now not everything that is sung is a song, Some pieces would be better called 'arias" or "Cantatas" or other things...

Now When talking about instrumental music (like piano music) we generally say "piece" to describe individual works.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THIS BEHAVIOUR AND TEASING IS EXACTLY WHY MOST PEOPLE THINK CLASSICAL PEOPLE ARE ARSEHOLES!!!!!
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Reply #8 on: September 22, 2015, 04:17:57 AM
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THIS BEHAVIOUR AND TEASING IS EXACTLY WHY MOST PEOPLE THINK CLASSICAL PEOPLE ARE ARSEHOLES!!!!!



Besides, I gave him actual suggestions also.
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Reply #9 on: September 22, 2015, 04:19:22 AM


Besides, I gave him actual suggestions also.

I was kind of hamming it up there haha, It just bugs me a lot because this is why hardly anyone likes classical, it's not the music, it's usually the snobbery.
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Reply #10 on: September 22, 2015, 04:19:39 AM
(snip properly explaining the difference between a piece and a song very eloquently and without being a condescending arsehole)

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THIS BEHAVIOUR AND TEASING IS EXACTLY WHY MOST PEOPLE THINK CLASSICAL PEOPLE ARE ARSEHOLES!!!!!
Come on now, don't give them false hope ;)

As for a list of approachable Chopin pieces, here goes nothing

Most mazurkas- specifically, 7/1, 7/2, and 67/2
Waltz in A minor, Op. Posthumous, Waltz in A flat, Op. 69/1 (L'adieu)
Nocturne in G minor, Op. 15/3 (not very easy but the easiest nocturne)
And, last but not least, Ballade Op. 52 in F minor







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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #11 on: September 22, 2015, 04:25:22 AM
And, last but not least, Ballade Op. 52 in F minor

Yes, that would be a great choice for a beginner. Maybe try Etude op 25 no 11 while you're at it. ;D
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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #12 on: September 22, 2015, 07:57:24 AM
The limits of one's language shows the limits of one's world.  Open up, guys.

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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #13 on: September 22, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
Actually I agree totally with poster above - this snobbish picking on someone who happened to use one incorrect word is so ... immature. Now, go on, remark on my incorrect English as well, if you like. My Swedish is still better than yours.
Real good pianists don't show this kind of arrogance. They remember what is was like to be a beginner, they know what it means to struggle with difficulties, that's why they are so good.

Answer to OP:
I don't know what you mean when you say "extremely easy" but I think some of Chopin's short preludes are easy.
Beethoven and Mozart both have written menuettos that are suitable even for a relative beginner, and Beethoven also has written a lot of "bagatelles" of different grades of difficulty, but as they are short, I recommend that you try them out.
What makes a piece really complicated sometimes, is just not that it may contain a few tricky bars, but that it may contain LOTS of tricky bars. So, short pieces with a few difficulties are ideal if you want a challenge or want to excel a bit in a performance despite your limited experience.

All these pieces are nice for performing as well, I recently heard a very good concert pianist (can't remember her name, but she was stunning) do one of the Chopin preludes as an encore.

Für Elise is one of the most famous piano pieces, "everyone" learns it - but watch out. The main theme is easy, but then comes a section where every unexperienced pianist shows his/her lack of skill very clearly, so it can be quite revealing ... Of course you can play this piece for fun as much as you like, but if you are to perform with it, you've better master even the difficult part properly first.  :)

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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #14 on: September 22, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
Seriously guys? When I was a new member, I was very rudely corrected 9 times that I said "song" instead of "piece" then they didn't help me at all. And all I say here is a friendly joke about Barry Manilow, and then proceed to answer his question, and 3 people get mad at me. What's with that?
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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #15 on: September 22, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
Seriously guys? When I was a new member, I was very rudely corrected 9 times that I said "song" instead of "piece" then they didn't help me at all. And all I say here is a friendly joke about Barry Manilow, and then proceed to answer his question, and 3 people get mad at me. What's with that?

I am unfamiliar with your early days and it is a shame that you were hassled. Also your joke wasn't really that bad but I guess I am trying to encourage some more welcoming behaviour and you'll notice we haven't heard back from the OP.

Also, you were not the only one ribbing the OP...

Anyway I am sorry if you feel a little attacked Noah, but maybe it's necessary to take steps to improve the forum and influence certain behaviours. To be honest I'm a little more disappointed in what the senior members said. It may seem all in good fun to us but if you've only just come to this forum and you immediately get a response like this... I doubt it'll make you want to stick around.
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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #16 on: September 22, 2015, 02:28:03 PM
As for easy pieces for chopin i would recommend the chopin waltz op69 no.1

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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #17 on: September 22, 2015, 04:18:30 PM
Seriously guys? When I was a new member, I was very rudely corrected 9 times that I said "song" instead of "piece" then they didn't help me at all. And all I say here is a friendly joke about Barry Manilow, and then proceed to answer his question, and 3 people get mad at me. What's

with that?


Sadly, things that are typed on the internet are much more negatively interpreted than they would be in person, as no one can see the twinkle in the eye and the accompanying willingness to help that would be seen face-to-face. 

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Reply #18 on: September 22, 2015, 05:59:29 PM
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Sadly, things that are typed on the internet are much more negatively interpreted than they would be in person, as no one can see the twinkle in the eye and the accompanying willingness to help that would be seen face-to-face.  

Thank you, indeed, so true. Not to mention foolish pride that leads us away from the light hearted nature intended sometimes. I said sometimes because also sometimes it really is intended to dig deep.. But in the end it's the internet after all, so we might be wise to give a little slack before we tighten all up over something..

As far as Chopin goes, you really got to pay a little dues before you get much into his music. You can find some easy piano books of Chopin arrangements but then you set yourself up for a fall later on when you go to learn the real thing. About 100 years ago ( it seems), when I had a teacher she felt it better to prepare over time. I'm thinking it was around year four when she gave me my first Chopin piece. Partly because there is a mood about his music that takes skill to perform even if the notes are fairly easy. You don't get away with just playing notes to make his music musical.  I think it was Horowitz who said if you want to play Chopin you have to think like Mozart, probably why my teacher introduced Mozart to me first. It's that kind of trailing expression to phrasing that you learn with Mozart, I like to sometimes think of it as the first beat counts, the last is withering, that you need under your belt to get Chopin going well. When to push into the keys, when to let off, it's in the touch but first it's in the heart. In this way simple music suddenly isn't so simple anymore, a pulse, a presence enters the music then. All of a sudden simple music brings tears to the eyes or goose bumps all over because of expression not note complexity, expression of those notes.

 Just sayin. Whom ever can do what ever they want with it.
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Re: easy songs by chopin?
Reply #19 on: September 24, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Come on now, don't give them false hope ;)

And, last but not least, Ballade Op. 52 in F minor



nah, i think liszt's works are much easier

Seriously guys? When I was a new member, I was very rudely corrected 9 times that I said "song" instead of "piece" then they didn't help me at all. And all I say here is a friendly joke about Barry Manilow, and then proceed to answer his question, and 3 people get mad at me. What's with that?

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I made an account and hadn't used it in a year. Welcome back, kevon.
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