I need your help: 'which piece to choose'

[rabipooram]

Hi. For all you should know I'm not a great player, believe me.
I just played a few pieces, like :
1. Beethoven - Sonata No. 14 In C Sharp Minor Op 27.2 'Mondscheinsonate' [1st Movement]
2. Chopin - Prelude Op. 28 No. 4
3. Chopin - Prelude Op. 28 No. 20
4. Chopin - Nocturne No. 20 In C Sharp Minor
5. Beethoven - Bagatelle In A Minor 'Fur Elise'

and I haven't been playing since one year ago because of something I was busy for, and unfortunately my laziness.  

Now, I wanna play a piece or maybe a few... to make my hands better and learn a lot. I just wanna work hard, maybe I can go to music college. Stupidly, I just can't decide which part should be my choice, and the nominees are:

01. Beethoven - Sonata No. 8 Op. 13 In C Minor 'Pathetique' [2nd Movement]
02. Chopin - Nocturne No .19 Op.72 No.1
03. Chopin - Waltz In B Minor, Op.69, No. 2
04. Tchaikovsky - The Seasons, Op. 37b - 10: 'October' [Autumn Song]
05. Rachmaninoff - Elegie, Op. 3, No. 1
06. Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1 - Prelude & Fugue #1 In C, BWV 846
07. Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1 - Prelude & Fugue #8 In E Flat Minor, BWV 853
08. Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1 - Prelude & Fugue #10 In E Minor, BWV 855
09. Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1 - Prelude & Fugue #12 In F Minor, BWV 857
10. Mozart - Fantasy In D Minor K. 397
11. Mozart - Piano Sonata #11 In A, K 331/K 300I, "Alla Turca" - Turkish March

I know that my nominees are so different. Please just help me to get a little better...

[visitor]

this is commendable. and I wish you luck. Might I suggest rather than pick and choose specific movements, you try to approach a whole sonata. If that is out of reach for you (ie a whole Beethoven sonata), then I would work up several of the Beethoven sonatinas. this will give you a better grasp of the form  on a microscale which will serve you well as you pony up to the larger extended full sonata allegro form works.

but for non sonata works from your list, I would work through each of the Bach works first, then the Mozart Fantasy.

above 3 suggestions should you  take them should keep you busy for a while

 

[pencilart3]

You could also consider Tchaikovsky's season June.

[visitor]

You could also consider Tchaikovsky's season June.

plus one for the nod to Pletnev. Good work.

[rabipooram]

this is commendable. and I wish you luck. Might I suggest rather than pick and choose specific movements, you try to approach a whole sonata. If that is out of reach for you (ie a whole Beethoven sonata), then I would work up several of the Beethoven sonatinas. this will give you a better grasp of the form  on a microscale which will serve you well as you pony up to the larger extended full sonata allegro form works.

but for non sonata works from your list, I would work through each of the Bach works first, then the Mozart Fantasy.

above 3 suggestions should you  take them should keep you busy for a while

 

Thank you so much for your help. 

[rabipooram]

You could also consider Tchaikovsky's season June.

Yeah, I reaallly like Tchaikovsky's June wayy more than October, but I just thought it should be so hard for me to play, especially at one of those great crescendos... I just wanna do something that I can take good care of it.

[pencilart3]

plus one for the nod to Pletnev. Good work.

I knew you would like that.

Yeah, I reaallly like Tchaikovsky's June wayy more than October, but I just thought it should be so hard for me to play, especially at one of those great crescendos... I just wanna do something that I can take good care of it.

Sounds good, it's just an idea!

[torandrekongelf]

To this types of questions I seem to answer the same over and over again.

Play Bach. Start with Notebook Anna Magdalena Bach and go to Inventions from there. It will give you a solid grounding in voice leading, contrapunctal technique, sight reading and dexterity.

And all the pieces are awesome.

[rabipooram]

To this types of questions I seem to answer the same over and over again.

Play Bach. Start with Notebook Anna Magdalena Bach and go to Inventions from there. It will give you a solid grounding in voice leading, contrapunctal technique, sight reading and dexterity.

And all the pieces are awesome.

Thank you for your help. And what do you suggest about a piece that I could play simultaneously beside Bach repertoire? I prefer a Romantic or Classic piece as those in my list.

[chopinlover01]

As far as the list that you mentioned goes, the Chopin waltz (OP 69/2) isn't bad, you could also have a look at 69/1.
The Mozart fantasy is simultaneously easy and very difficult. Getting all the details perfect and getting the right touch is hard, and the presto sections can be difficult to get down.
My recommendation: Chopin mazurkas. They're quite a bit like the waltzes, but IMO more refined, especially the later ones.

[ajlongspiano]

Chopin mazurkas.

I have never agreed with a suggestion more. Check out Op.63 No.3, all of Op.67, all of Op.68, Op.7 No.2, Op.17 No.2, Op.24 No.1, and Op.30 no.2

[pencilart3]

I have never agreed with a suggestion more. Check out Op.63 No.3, all of Op.67, all of Op.68, Op.7 No.2, Op.17 No.2, Op.24 No.1, and Op.30 no.2

op. 50 no. 1

[rabipooram]

Everyone thank you so much for telling me your experiences, it's really valuable for me. Thank you so much. 

[ianw]

One word of warning - you might find the Rachmaninov piece a fair bit harder than the others.  I note this is rated a 9 on the www.pianosyllabus.com website, whereas the pieces on your completed list are mostly grade 5 and 6 (the Chopin nocturne being the exception).

[rabipooram]

One word of warning - you might find the Rachmaninov piece a fair bit harder than the others.  I note this is rated a 9 on the www.pianosyllabus.com website, whereas the pieces on your completed list are mostly grade 5 and 6 (the Chopin nocturne being the exception).

Thank you. I really should check that website out and know about difficulty of pieces. That would really help me...

[irrational]

Another opinion.

I also recommend the Bach to start. Although the fugues can be very hard. Preludes, then Inventions, then fugues.
Look at movements from the French Suties as well. That teaches dance rhythms too.

I am playing the Mozart fantasy at the moment. Been learning it on and off for 2 years. It seems simple, but the touch and detail is very hard. A satisfying piece to learn.

Also look at Mendelssohn songs without words. Some are not too hard and very beautiful. I am enjoying Op.19 Nr.1 now.
Schubert German Dances and Landler are also nice and not too hard.

Chopin preludes have little gems and also technique teaching. Play 4 and 6 after each other for instance. Right hand melody, left hand melody. Mazurkas and Waltzes both are fun.

Beethoven...You can also try OP.10 Nr.3 slow movement to start. Its long but amazing.

[rabipooram]

Another opinion.

I also recommend the Bach to start. Although the fugues can be very hard. Preludes, then Inventions, then fugues.
Look at movements from the French Suties as well. That teaches dance rhythms too.

I am playing the Mozart fantasy at the moment. Been learning it on and off for 2 years. It seems simple, but the touch and detail is very hard. A satisfying piece to learn.

Also look at Mendelssohn songs without words. Some are not too hard and very beautiful. I am enjoying Op.19 Nr.1 now.
Schubert German Dances and Landler are also nice and not too hard.

Chopin preludes have little gems and also technique teaching. Play 4 and 6 after each other for instance. Right hand melody, left hand melody. Mazurkas and Waltzes both are fun.

Beethoven...You can also try OP.10 Nr.3 slow movement to start. Its long but amazing.

Thank you so much for your great advices...