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Topic: What would be the best camera angle to record a performance in one take?  (Read 9265 times)

Offline yadeehoo

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I wanna shoot a performance with only one camera.

From what angle do you prefer/enjoy watching a video of someone playing?

Eventually you can post a link of a video you think is shot at the right angle.

Thank you

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Offline yadeehoo

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I think the best angle is a right side over the shoulder slightly behind

Essentially this angle but a little more view of the pianist also.

Yes, Addod, I like it too.

I didn't mention that I record with my laptop camera, but this angle should be somewhat doable, i'm gonna try different setups, see what works best to get that angle your recommend.

Thanks for always being there when I need it  ;)

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That might sound like a strange question but, should I ask :

- Why most always from the right angle? Is there a particular reason for that?

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That might sound like a strange question but, should I ask :

- Why most always from the right angle? Is there a particular reason for that?

Some colleges and competitions require that side so that all of the video applications look the same.
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Some colleges and competitions require that side so that all of the video applications look the same.

there are rules for absolutely everything..lol.   that one is very understandable though.

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Sounds like we have a consensus, Ok thx, I'll go with that

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Usually jury want to see video from right angle, because in most concert halls public sees pianist from right angle. I played only once in concert hall, where was opposite and that was really strange for me.



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Usually jury want to see video from right angle, because in most concert halls public sees pianist from right angle. I played only once in concert hall, where was opposite and that was really strange for me.


Oh, really? Lol. Yeah that must be weird. I'v rarely seen any pianist if ever playing on the left side solo in a concert hall.

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@yadeehoo (nice username BTW ;D) This is usually how I do mine... zoom out if you want your face in it :)

Zoomed in...


Zoomed out...
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from the right side due to how the lid to the piano opens. Std for that is for it to open so the sound comes out and towards the audience and hall.  Left hand is usually reserved for 2nd piano in duet in some cases, alternately some two piano works will have both from right side as well for the reason stated above and because it can help w/ ensemble

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from the right side due to how the lid to the piano opens.


very understandable... and so completely obvious that even I missed it..lol

DUH!  ::)

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How did you get your camera up there?

Btw, makes sense about the piano lid opening to the right  ;)

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How did you get your camera up there?

Btw, makes sense about the piano lid opening to the right  ;)
thats not me but its yue angle i do and would prefer. One needa a high up tripod or place on shelf or cieling mount or similar . I use -would use that or the standard right side

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thats not me but its yue angle i do and would prefer. One needa a high up tripod or place on shelf or cieling mount or similar . I use -would use that or the standard right side

Yeah I don't have a real camera for now, only a laptop, I'll try to get it as high as possible, on the right side, behind my shoulder

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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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For the good and the bad Yadeehoo! My opinions of somebody as a pianist is not my opinions of somebody as a person, and I certainly won't be unnecessarily spiteful or unprofessional towards another person without good reason or just because I don't agree with some opinions. 


It's a good view, I think often there is more happening in the right hand and the audience are suckers for something that looks as impressive as it sounds!


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I prefer the slightly further wider shot that shows the hands, feet and head for pedal.

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Oh yeah, showing the pedal as well, it's neat. Thx

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"Yeah I don't have a real camera for now, only a laptop, I'll try to get it as high as possible, on the right side, behind my shoulder"

Once again, the so-called "Moderator" of this website has allowed very well intentioned pianists to waste their time on someone who represents themselves as something they are not.  Every one here is most familiar with the basic mechanics of making a self-performing video.

This is a fake post, at best, and in the future I will aggressively challenge the credentials of other similar posts.  I am by no means any god, but I am someone who has spent the last 20 yersw in the realm of aesthetic criticism.
 


 

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I have a question concerning sound recording.
Do you guys know, is there a way to record a digital piano with a laptop but in a way that the sound be transmitted directly from the digital to the laptop? I mean, e.g. if there is some noise in the room - it is not recorded because only the sound of the digital is being recorded. I guess, laptop would have to be connected to mac but how (USB to USB?) and how to set it all up?
Sorry for off-topic.
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I have a question concerning sound recording.
Do you guys know, is there a way to record a digital piano with a laptop but in a way that the sound be transmitted directly from the digital to the laptop? I mean, e.g. if there is some noise in the room - it is not recorded because only the sound of the digital is being recorded.
Sorry for off-topic.


If you have the cord and there is a place to plug it in, just plug it directly into your computer.
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I don't have a cord, have to buy one but am not sure - it is gonna work like this with USB to USB? Or do I need something different to transmit the sound?  ::)
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  Every one here is most familiar with the basic mechanics of making a self-performing vide
 

 
Sorry, Louis-  last time I pinched myself, I am indeed real... but I am clueless about how to record a self-performing video.  I've just never done it.  I finally bought decent recording equipment so I could record myself practicing.  if I ever decide to video the piano, I will have questions.... as I could record the video from my cell or camera but would want to somehow use the better audio.  And no, I do not own and have no intention to buy a good video camera.

That is the problem with such generalizations as "Everyone here"...

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Every one here is most familiar with the basic mechanics of making a self-performing video.





I am just curious Louis.. what is it about this one that bothers you so?  why do you suddenly seem so worried about fake posts...?  we used to just argue about how.... ????? actually I have always had trouble determining what exactly we are arguing about at any given time... lol.  This one is not a fake Louis...he's just an adult noob :)

and if you are familiar with making a self-performing video than why don't you post something?  I would be very interested in seeing this technique you are learning and I would like to hear you play. 

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I have a question concerning sound recording.
Do you guys know, is there a way to record a digital piano with a laptop but in a way that the sound be transmitted directly from the digital to the laptop? I mean, e.g. if there is some noise in the room - it is not recorded because only the sound of the digital is being recorded. I guess, laptop would have to be connected to mac but how (USB to USB?) and how to set it all up?
Sorry for off-topic.


Ok, I'm dabbling with video, but I know for the sound. There's 2 options :

1 - If you have a USB port in the back, you can plug it right in the computer, but you will need a software to decode the midi info, and a bank of sounds to rebuild the info into sound.

2 - You can plug the audio/phones out of your digital piano into a sound card connected into your computer, or directly into the line in of the comp. And you'll get the piano sound recorded in the video just as it would sound in your headphones (you'll need to select that source from your sound preferences menu). That's what I use.

If you can tell me both your digital piano and computer brand model, I can tell you exactly what you need to do, what cable to use and how to set it up

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"Yeah I don't have a real camera for now, only a laptop, I'll try to get it as high as possible, on the right side, behind my shoulder"

Once again, the so-called "Moderator" of this website has allowed very well intentioned pianists to waste their time on someone who represents themselves as something they are not.  Every one here is most familiar with the basic mechanics of making a self-performing video.

This is a fake post, at best, and in the future I will aggressively challenge the credentials of other similar posts.  I am by no means any god, but I am someone who has spent the last 20 yersw in the realm of aesthetic criticism.


Louis, if you don't intend to help, at least try to be funny  ;)

If you were and I didn't get it, my bad. Still, I'd appreciate if you'd explain the depths of your wittiness

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Louis, if you don't intend to help, at least try to be funny  ;)

 

you mean you didn't totally crack up when you read his post about how the moderators of this website failed to protect us from wasting our time?  come on-- now that's freakin HILARIOUS.

that's funny on so many levels that it's really kind of genius...and well within the realm of aesthetic criticism.. (  ???)   

 




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you mean you didn't totally crack up when you read his post about how the moderators of this website failed to protect us from wasting our time?  come on-- now that's freakin HILARIOUS.

that's funny on so many levels that it's really kind of genius...and well within the realm of aesthetic criticism.. (  ???)  


Ah, yes, now I get the joke.  ;D Louis is actually very funny, it's good to have this in this forum. I just thought he was trying to be all serious about it, when in fact, he was indeed making powerful ironic jokes that I didn't understand. Thx Laurie, thx Louis

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 ;D Louis is actually very funny,


 ;) ... you have no idea.

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Ok, I'm dabbling with video, but I know for the sound. There's 2 options :

1 - If you have a USB port in the back, you can plug it right in the computer, but you will need a software to decode the midi info, and a bank of sounds to rebuild the info into sound.

2 - You can plug the audio/phones out of your digital piano into a sound card connected into your computer, or directly into the line in of the comp. And you'll get the piano sound recorded in the video just as it would sound in your headphones (you'll need to select that source from your sound preferences menu). That's what I use.

If you can tell me both your digital piano and computer brand model, I can tell you exactly what you need to do, what cable to use and how to set it up

Yadehoo,it would be great. I have kawai cs 6 and a macbook pro. Thank you!:-)
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Yadehoo,it would be great. I have kawai cs 6 and a macbook pro. Thank you!:-)

Depending on which year your Macbook pro is, if you have a "mic in/line in" (same plug as the phones out), you simply need a cable like this one :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-PULSE-Shielded-Stereo-6-35mm/dp/B007JIS562/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445871241&sr=8-1&keywords=stereo+1%2F2+jack+to+stereo+1%2F4

You plug it on the left and right "line out" of your Kawai, directly to your Macbook, and choose that input source from the sound menu

My Macbook Pro is 2014 and doesn't have that feature anymore, that's why I use a sound card, but basically, it's the same system. if it's your case too, and depending on your needs, you might want an Audio/USB sound card too, or if it's not in your budget, you can get something like this, to plug your cable in :

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Adapter-Windows-AU-MMSA/dp/B00IRVQ0F8/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1445872623&sr=1-2&keywords=usb+sound+card+for+mac

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That might just be what you need for like under $10 investment

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Many thanks yadehoo:-) I will check it out!
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If you are a learner, which you and I both are, then you are interested in studying how you play, and possibly in having anyone teaching or advising you remotely on how you play.  In that case you are not interested in the aesthetics of what be pleasing to a jury in competitions or similar.  You want to have a good view of your hands, arms, seating a possibly even the feet.  The whole body is used for playing.  In the least it should include from torso to head.
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