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What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?

Wiener Urtext
2 (18.2%)
Henle
4 (36.4%)
Barry Cooper
1 (9.1%)
Bülow ._.
0 (0%)
Schnabel
1 (9.1%)
Schenker (aka "printed from IMSLP because I'm such a cheapskate [jk])
2 (18.2%)
it's not on here, stupid schumaniac!
1 (9.1%)

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Offline schumaniac

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What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
on: October 30, 2015, 01:04:36 AM
choose 3 :P
Editions, textual accuracy, etc. are pretty fascinating to me... I'm not posting questions for their sake

Offline ffchopinist

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 01:50:24 AM
Is the Henle you mentioned the Henle Urtext?

If so, I always try to get Urtext editions for everything (usually the blue Henle ones).  I do like some other editions for learning purposes, though... for instance, I have the Alfred for the Chopin etudes, since I find the Urtext for the etudes aren't always as helpful for learning suggested fingerings, etc.

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 02:52:31 AM
Ugh the Henle Urtext are so damn expensive (and I cant seem to find them anywhere in China, poor me ??? )

For the Sonatas Op. 2-22 (Volume I), I have the Konemann Edition. Very good edition, hardcover, you can get them cheap at Paris and elsewhere. They have very good proofing and I love them better than the Henle (which, BTW, are so boring to look at.)

For the Sonatas Op. 26-53 (Volume II), I have the Wiener Urtext (My dad got it cheap in China ::) Don't you LOVE taking advantage of low Chinese music-book prices lol).

For Sonatas Op. 57-111 (Vollume III), I have the Konemann. FYI, they were published in Budapest a long time ago, so they're very cheap, yet very good and high-quality (no typos anywhere).

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 03:01:19 AM
I have the henle edition of Beethoven's sonatas. I found it at a teacher book give away. Everybody could choose one book from this teacher who was going to retire's library. I was like I'LL TAKE THIS ONE, PLEASE! I also forked out the cash for the henle edition of Chopin's complete etudes. I brought it home, carefully set it on the piano, and my 20 year old brother came in, sat down at the piano, plopped his cup of coffee on it (spilling coffee all over it) and starting playing Jason Aldean. Fortunately it was a sturdy cover and none of the pages were effected.
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Offline schumaniac

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 03:25:22 AM
choose 3 :P
Editions, textual accuracy, etc. are pretty fascinating to me... I'm not posting questions for their sake
I meant Choose 1 whoops cause I didn't change the "# of options" or whatever

and @rubinsteinmad the Wiener Urtext are v popular in China, that's the edition that I use...
I also have the Schnabel lol

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #5 on: November 07, 2015, 07:24:37 PM
You should always have a critical edition, such as henle. If you attend masterclasses, or playing for new teachers, with a non-critical edition, you'll be a bit in trouble.

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #6 on: November 08, 2015, 02:33:07 AM
@P3 I would've killed him. Seriously.
I have the Henle. Great thing about it is, there are only two volumes.

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 02:35:38 AM
Schnabel is certainly the best.

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 02:36:08 AM
@P3 I would've killed him. Seriously.
I have the Henle. Great thing about it is, there are only two volumes.
killed who?

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #9 on: November 08, 2015, 02:40:10 AM

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #10 on: November 08, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
Once you have the Henle, you should get both Schnabel and von Bulow.

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #11 on: November 08, 2015, 05:48:28 PM
Schnabel is certainly the best.

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I have to disagree.. My experience with Schnabel has been okay at best, Josh ;)

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #12 on: November 08, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
Once you have the Henle, you should get both Schnabel and von Bulow.
ew not Bulow.
Bulow was from a 19th century, Romantic tradition of Beethoven which would be considered tasteless nowadays. (also see his nicknames and "notes" to the Chopin preludes)

Schnabel is good as a reference alongside Urtext editions though. However, his fingerings and articulations are super weird & need to be taken w/ a grain of salt. In the late sonatas he also starts to wax philosphical.

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #13 on: November 08, 2015, 07:42:51 PM
I have to disagree.. My experience with Schnabel has been okay at best, Josh ;)

Schnabel: Soviets as Weiner:Chinese as Henle:Americans

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #14 on: November 08, 2015, 07:46:48 PM
Schnabel: Soviets as Weiner:Chinese as Henle:Americans
Schnabel Soviets? where'd you get that idea from
stop with the nationality distinctions

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Re: What editions of Beethoven sonatas do you use?
Reply #15 on: November 08, 2015, 07:49:11 PM
Schnabel Soviets? where'd you get that idea from
stop with the nationality distinctions

People use Schnabel's in the USSR.
Just like we use Henle in the US.

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