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Offline abel2

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I'll admit it....
« on: January 22, 2016, 02:14:01 AM »
I lose all interest in people if they say they like any of the Satie Gymnopedies. They're such stupid pieces of music. They're not even pretty. Just stupid. It's not even a cool progression, people, get over it.

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 02:29:24 AM »
Ugh... ancient Greek music, Greekalism... UGH
Turqoiserie is SO MUCH MORE LISTENABLE: Just listen to the numerous Turkish Marches out there

Only Greeks can compose good Greek music. French composers such as Satie can't come close. (For the case of yogurt, that's different.)

 

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #2 on: January 22, 2016, 04:40:44 AM »
I lose all interest in people if they say they like any of the Satie Gymnopedies. They're such stupid pieces of music. They're not even pretty. Just stupid. It's not even a cool progression, people, get over it.
I lose all interest in people who lose interest in people simply because they have different tastes ;)

Who wants pretty anyway?

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #3 on: January 22, 2016, 05:22:21 AM »
I lose all interest in people who lose interest in people simply because they have different tastes ;)

Who wants pretty anyway?
Hey, I'm an elitist. Don't like it, not my problem.

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #4 on: January 22, 2016, 05:37:53 AM »
Hey, I'm an elitist. 

Just not a very good one...

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #5 on: January 22, 2016, 05:49:05 AM »
Third ones ok it's all objective though.

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #6 on: January 22, 2016, 10:03:38 PM »
Just not a very good one...
How is one not a good elitist?

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #7 on: January 23, 2016, 07:26:15 AM »
How is one not a good elitist?

Not knowing how to really sound like one  ;D

Try something like this:

While these pieces were modern and innovative in the time of composition (around 1888 or before), the way they are usually presented today reduce them to pretty melodies and empty sentimentalism. These pieces are much more though. Satie introduced new kind of mimimalism decades before it became a fashion. The pieces themselves are not in any sense outdated, but very few modern pianists such as x.x  (add a name that almost no-one would recognize) can really understand and bring out all the complexity in Saties small scale compositions and understand the connection with literal and visual arts. Satie emphasises perspective rather than progess. It has been said that the Gymnopedies are like walking around a sculpture, viewing it from three different angles.

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #8 on: January 24, 2016, 12:48:37 AM »
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Offline stoudemirestat

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #9 on: January 24, 2016, 04:16:54 AM »
Congrats for admitting to being everything that is wrong with the classical music world.

Offline brogers70

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #10 on: February 02, 2016, 01:01:09 PM »
Not knowing how to really sound like one  ;D

Try something like this:

While these pieces were modern and innovative in the time of composition (around 1888 or before), the way they are usually presented today reduce them to pretty melodies and empty sentimentalism. These pieces are much more though. Satie introduced new kind of mimimalism decades before it became a fashion. The pieces themselves are not in any sense outdated, but very few modern pianists such as x.x  (add a name that almost no-one would recognize) can really understand and bring out all the complexity in Saties small scale compositions and understand the connection with literal and visual arts. Satie emphasises perspective rather than progess. It has been said that the Gymnopedies are like walking around a sculpture, viewing it from three different angles.

Now, that's elitism as it should be done. Bravo.

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 10:13:55 PM »
Not knowing how to really sound like one  ;D

Try something like this:

While these pieces were modern and innovative in the time of composition (around 1888 or before), the way they are usually presented today reduce them to pretty melodies and empty sentimentalism. These pieces are much more though. Satie introduced new kind of mimimalism decades before it became a fashion. The pieces themselves are not in any sense outdated, but very few modern pianists such as x.x  (add a name that almost no-one would recognize) can really understand and bring out all the complexity in Saties small scale compositions and understand the connection with literal and visual arts. Satie emphasises perspective rather than progess. It has been said that the Gymnopedies are like walking around a sculpture, viewing it from three different angles.
You're thinking of more of elitist stereotypes; elitism refers to simply thinking that something is better than others based on subjective standards.

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Re: I'll admit it....
«Reply #12 on: February 03, 2016, 06:17:42 AM »
elitism refers to simply thinking that something is better than others based on subjective standards.

In your case maybe, but usually not. It's a theoretical concept used in fields such as political science and sociology with specific definitions.