Speaking to the Dead.

[lostinidlewonder]

So this is something a bit different but quite personal to me.

I see many people in this world putting faith into the chance that they are able to communicate with their passed loved ones. I think what this communication exactly is, is different for each person. I would like to share how I have been able to be in touch with my passed loved ones.

First of all I have always felt that once we die our ability to consciously think also dies and any new future action in this world is impossible. So I do not believe that if I get a message from a loved one it actually is coming directly from them. The hope that our passed loved ones intelligence and conscious thought is still in tact while they are dead, this is very wrong to me. The dead thus know absolutely nothing at all.

So if believe this how can I communicate with my passed loved ones? I believe that we are made of two essential parts, the body and the spirit (the breath of life) and these two parts make the soul (who we are when conscious). Separate life from the body and you are dead, who you are is gone, the soul ceases to exist. The body and soul dies but the spirit, what gives life remains. The spirit has no conscious thought it is merely a force that gives life but requires a body to create the soul.

I have faith that the spirit when we all die goes to God. I believe in a supreme being who holds the spirit of life of all of us, he connects every single on of us alive, dead and to be born. He knows us individually and he has kept our spirit when we had no body and no conscious thought, before we were born, and will again when our Spirit returns to him once more in our death.

When I pray to my God about my passed loved ones I am often comforted by an emotions first from out of myself which fills my soul with great comfort often with particular powerful words or sentences or memories of the loved one. In instances of utter helplessness God maybe will offer a favour even though he need not do such things for me and give a sign to those whom I love also effected or even myself, it will always be talked about and verified, it can't be ignored. These favours I have found occur to many people, they can smell, hear, dream, see coincidences etc all that reminds them of someone they have lost and is so strong they can't help but be aware of it.

I believe God loves us dearly and wants us to know our loved ones are safe with him. I know there is no fear of death, the process of dying I think is much worse, but I know it is not the end. After this round we will see something amazing. Hard to believe but it will be so amazing that even if someone you loved dearly is not there you will not be saddened because everyone there will be like your most closest partner. I like to believe everyone will have a reward in the afterlife but who knows the scales of judgement God will use, rest assured no one will feel any injustice as his judgement will be perfect. I like to imagine that our deep love for someone who has died will count for something in the end.

[thalbergmad]

What a moving post.

Thal

[emill]

I see many people in this world putting faith into the chance that they are able to communicate with their passed loved ones. I think what this communication exactly is, is different for each person. I would like to share how I have been able to be in touch with my passed loved ones.  

I have directly dealt, literally, almost daily with illness, pain, suffering and separation for over 40 years now and because of the many direct experiences, my belief about the afterlife has gone beyond faith.  I have seen and observed too many things that cannot be ignored and dismissed .... which have opened my inner consciousness to the world or dimension beyond.  

I truly believe you.

[thalbergmad]

Although i am not a religious man, my experiences during some sessions with a retrogressional hypnotist, convinced me of the afterlife and completely removed my fear of death.

Thal

[rubinsteinmad]

Although i am not a religious man, my experiences during some sessions with a retrogressional hypnotist, convinced me of the afterlife and completely removed my fear of death.

Thal

You're a man, not a woman?

[thalbergmad]

How many women have you seen with a full beard?

Thal

[dcstudio]

I don't know, there's that lady in the freakshow on Venice beach who sports a full beard. 

full beard and you play the banjo? hmmm... West Virginia? Georgia?  lol.

[lostinidlewonder]

What a moving post.

Thal

Thanks thal, I tried to write simply how it is for me. I was also inspire to post because a loved one of mine who lost their partner almost 20 years ago through accident still weeps for them. I feel their loss they feel immensly as if it is my own loss, a few days ago in helplessness I prayed to my God and we were overwhelmed with confirmation. The exact model of the car this person died in showed up constantly the next day so much so my loved one could not ignore it. They also had visions and memories within dreams of their passed partner which woke them up in both sadness and happiness. They also heard them, felt them and thought they were physically near. It was a real spiritual confirmation (not that I need it because I believe in my god completely) for me since it all occurred the next day after my prayer.

I have directly dealt, literally, almost daily with illness, pain, suffering and separation for over 40 years now and because of the many direct experiences, my belief about the afterlife has gone beyond faith.  I have seen and observed too many things that cannot be ignored and dismissed .... which have opened my inner consciousness to the world or dimension beyond.  

I truly believe you.

What a blessing to believe emill, it is real! I think the suffering we deal with when someone we love dies is amongst the worst suffering we can experience in our life. There is no human solution, no comfort, no logical reasoning which makes death any easier, when we lose a loved one it breaks us. The power of death seems so final, dark, devouring, removing all happiness. But once we realize that it is really temporary and there will be life again when we receive our new body, it changes everything. Once our maker himself reaches his hand out to us and offers a favour allowing us to "feel "our passed loved once again, it changes everything. Even the harshest non-believer of the afterlife cannot deny messages and signs that they experience for those who they love who has passed away. Sometimes our hearts are too much in pain to realize it is such a loving favour to experience these thing but upon reflection and sometimes if we can quieter our saddened heart for a moment, we realize there is a greater loving force that binds us to those we have lost in death.

[dcstudio]

On December 4th 1989 my friend Melinda and her two children, Bailey and Logan were killed in an accident.   The next night I dreamt that I saw Melinda holding a baby with jet black hair--excepts for the ends which were reddish--, she looked at me and smiled and said, "this is Bailey,"   I remember thinking in my dream... that baby has black hair and Bailey's hair had been ash blonde.  On the way to their funeral I told my husband, then boyfriend, about my dream.   He said if we have a daughter we will name her Bailey... and then my husband said our daughter's full name. We had only been dating for 3 months at that point.

10 years later to the day on December 4th 1999 I got pregnant and it was unplanned.   I gave birth to my daughter on my 36th birthday and she was born with a full head of black hair with reddish tips just like the baby in my dream.   My friend, Melinda, had also given birth to her daughter on her birthday....which takes this story up a notch on the freakometer.   I named my daughter Bailey... of course.

thoughts?

[Bob]

*Bob thought this might be an Enderverse-related thread.*

[ahinton]

Whilst I do not agree with the principle of the thread, the OP is indeed a very moving post, as Thal writes. I happen not to believe in an "after-life" (although I do not at all claim to be right about this) but have no fear of death provided that it comes swiftly and painlessly (although preferably not next week).

I do wonder, though, if I should revise my thoughts on this, given that it might be considered by some that the nature of communication inolved in the receiving of musical ideas for a composition is a phenomenon not so very far removed from this (other than in terms of context and the fact of it being a one-way traffic rather than anything remotely resembling a conversation per se, of course).

Best,

Alistair

[hardy_practice]

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

[timothy42b]

One of my favorite authors of nonfiction for years has been Oliver Sacks, who recently passed.

I recommend
https://www.amazon.com/Hallucinations-Oliver-Sacks/dp/0307947432/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453901081&sr=8-1&keywords=oliver+sacks+hallucinations

not because I am trying to downplay the powerfulness of the perceptions, but because there are experiences we share that make us human, without necessarily being supernatural. 

Interlibrary loan is your friend. 
Most any book by Sacks is worth reading.  Here's a list:
https://www.oliversacks.com/books-by-oliver-sacks/

[dcstudio]

I do wonder, though, if I should revise my thoughts on this, given that it might be considered by some that the nature of communication inolved in the receiving of musical ideas for a composition is a phenomenon not so very far removed from this

as someone who plays a lot of improvisational jazz piano I wonder this myself.   Those ideas materialize and are played before I can even think about it.  Sometimes it really does feel like they are coming from "elsewhere."   I realize this is simply my perception of this and there is no physical evidence to support that but still...   

[emill]

as someone who plays a lot of improvisational jazz piano I wonder this myself.   Those ideas materialize and are played before I can even think about it.  Sometimes it really does feel like they are coming from "elsewhere."   I realize this is simply my perception of this and there is no physical evidence to support that but still...   

Really wish you would elaborate more on that "slave, half-way" house experience you had ... still waiting for you to start a new thread on that.

[dcstudio]

Really wish you would elaborate more on that "slave, half-way" house experience you had ... still waiting for you to start a new thread on that.

what and damage my stellar reputation around here as a steadfast and stoic intellectual?

LOL

ok... let me think of a more cohesive and coherent way to elaborate on the House in Ohio, and it's ghosts, and I will.  I know now that there will be at least one reader... so I am motivated.

[emill]

X.x.x.x..  ok... let me think of a more cohesive and coherent way to elaborate on the House in Ohio, and it's ghosts, and I will.  I know now that there will be at least one reader... so I am motivated.

I will be tempted to pitch in my "poltergeist" experience!

[chopinlover01]

Although i am not a religious man, my experiences during some sessions with a retrogressional hypnotist, convinced me of the afterlife and completely removed my fear of death.

Thal

I'd be very interested to hear of this. Most of the "hypnotists" I've seen have been a bunch of bullsh*t, so I'd love to hear your experience with this.