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chopinawesome

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difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

on: January 28, 2016, 02:56:05 AM

What is the difficulty of these sonatas?

Haydn
HOb XVI 20.27,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,40,42,43,46,50,51

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ianw

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 12:36:58 PM

On a scale of 0-10 the database at www.pianosyllabus.com has these gradings:

Hob XVI:20 Gr 10
27 7
32 9
33 9
34 9
35 9
36 8
37 8
38 8
40 8
42 8
43 8
46 9
50 9
51 8

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perfect_pitch

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 02:40:28 PM

Hob XVI:20 Don't even try
   27 Piece of Piss...
   32 Are you really sure you want to try...
   33 Are you really sure you want to try...
   34 Are you really sure you want to try...
   35 Are you really sure you want to try...
   36 Finger-twister
   37 Finger-twister
   38 Finger-twister
   40 Finger-twister
   42 Finger-twister
   43 Finger-twister
   46 Are you really sure you want to try...
   50 Are you really sure you want to try...
   51 Finger-twister

Happy???

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kawai_cs

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 08:43:42 PM

Quote from: perfect_pitch on January 29, 2016, 02:40:28 PM

Hob XVI:20 Don't even try

Happy???

Why the heck has my teacher told me to play this one?!

I am definitely not that good and for sure not grade 10. I don't get it. Does anyone know if the 1st movement was more approachable than the rest by any chance? I am glad I haven't bought the score yet...

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Chopin, 10-8 | Chopin, 25-12 | Haydn, HOB XVI:20

chopinawesome

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 12:54:01 AM

20 is very hard in my opinion
27 is easy, probably easier than HOB XVI 35
32 is O.K
33 is on the easier side, I think
34 is harder than 33, though still approachable
35 is easy
36 is harder than 34
37 is about the same level as 36
38 is a smidge harder than 36
40 is short, but harder than 38
42 is O.K
43 is O.K and harder than 34 but easier than 36
46 is very hard, but not as hard as 20
50 is a pain in the neck, harder than 20
51 is on the hard side with 36,37,20,46, and 50. IT is harder than 36 and 37.

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Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
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Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

alkan2010

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #5 on: January 30, 2016, 09:21:07 AM

Esterhazy and Auenbrugger Sonatas are a bit easier than they sound (except no. 20 in c minor) and they contain a lot of wonderful studying material. No. 23 in F major is another good one to tackle. I'm currently studying 32 in b minor: the first two movements do not pose great technical challenges (but they're plenty of stylistic/ornamentation work to do), the Finale is slightly harder.
Still, an easier Sonata than Mozart's k332 or similar works.
50 in C and 52 in E-flat are hard and large-scale works.

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chopinawesome

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #6 on: January 30, 2016, 03:52:51 PM

I am currently studying HOB XVI 36 and 51

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Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

chopinawesome

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Re: difficulty of Haydn Sonatas

Reply #7 on: January 30, 2016, 04:03:35 PM

I just finished 51

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Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

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