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Offline jason_sioco

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Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
« on: February 07, 2016, 05:00:28 PM »
I want to get a lot of views like everyone else. The problem is that I average about 2 views per video. When people watch my videos, they watch it for 20 seconds and then they realize its crap to them and they stop watching and leave. I basically upload my original compositions and some times I am doing a rendition of a well-known composer. My videos are well-presented, yet barely anyone watches. I am trying to be like Kyle Landry, yet no luck so far, Why?

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 05:51:43 PM »
do covers of recent famous tunes from tv cinema and other medias

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 06:20:18 PM »
Why don't you try by posting a link here??.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 10:03:08 AM »
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 04:55:40 PM »
do covers of recent famous tunes from tv cinema and other medias

Yup.. that's about the big deal nowadays, people have too narrow tastes in regards to music, only people that have real taste in music finds golden posts like yours. Others will simply view it as-- I quote this, as this is the exact thing a tasteless person said to me "What are you playing? Pure instrumental? It's boring, don't you have anything else better?".

And as adodd said, there are many renditions of a well known piece performed by a well known artist so chances are, people will likely to look for these artists first rather than scrolling through all pages of youtube.
Yup.. still a beginner. Up til now..

When will a teacher accept me? :/

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 06:00:26 PM »

it's funny--I have 1.7 million views... but for the life of me I don't understand why.. 

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 08:35:01 PM »
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 12:04:18 AM »
May i refer you to my post in which i stated "unless you got lucky."… .. ;p

give that man a prize--right on the money again addod.   You are batting 1000 today!

but you are a Brit so you don't play baseball...  does you're "cricketing" 1000 mean the same thing?  no?   Rugby?  got it in the scrum?  lol.

actually I was friends with Kyle Landry during the pioneering days of YT.   Kyle got featured because of his gamer music and then somebody at YT started featuring the people he subscribed to.  Lucky me--I was number 3.  

you want views--size into someone with a bunch of subscribers.  Get one of the heavy hitters to notice you.   I am probably the only one with experience in this area.   Anybody smearing my 1.7 mill around here chime right in.  Really that's nothing compared to viewcounts now.  Btw--they told me 3 years ago they were going to pay me... LOL guess that check got lost in the mail.  

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #8 on: February 09, 2016, 11:55:31 AM »
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 04:08:05 PM »
it's funny--I have 1.7 million views... but for the life of me I don't understand why.. 

Lucky, I was a part of that 1.7 million views. You're quite a performing artist. :)
Yup.. still a beginner. Up til now..

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 04:35:53 PM »
I'd say "got it in one" and would probably be regarding British and Golf, you know the sophisticated sport us Brits like to play.


Golf--Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden

I stick to tradition.   I do love that there are 18 holes because their are 18 shots in a flask and the gentlemen had to drink one every hole. Bloody cold up there for golf.   I live in a beach resort town.   btw--the only thing I like less than golf is baseball.  Call me un-American but it's soooooo boring.

anyway... you were on a roll yesterday. :)  I was a casino dealer--that is a reference to the game of Craps.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 04:40:46 PM »
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 04:46:00 PM »
Lucky, I was a part of that 1.7 million views. You're quite a performing artist. :)

thanks so much :)  There are a lot of great artists on YT--I was EXTREMELY lucky. That and I made nice vids with a nice camera. As I said before--my friendship with Kyle was also a factor.  Those views are such a solid calling card, too.  Geez--I have never received a dime from YT but I have landed many, many, gigs from that account.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 04:58:38 PM »
I Mean firstly, you've only made 30 videos.. I honestly wouldn't expect you to hit big numbers with only 30 unless you got lucky.

Second there isn't any consistency in your videos, no playlists that I can see? In one video you're playing the piano, on another a guitar, on another a Sax, now unless you're a genius at all 3, you're WAY down the list of people that I would want to view.

I would title the videos with something more catchy, I am certain 10000's of people call the piece exactly what it is (the title of the piece) "performed by etc etc" or picking names people may not be looking for or are too vague (eg you have many videos called improvisation or original melody)

Unless people know you, they're not searching for your name. BachScholar as an example nobody has that name, it's easy to spell, easy to remember.

Check him out, he's not the best pianist BY FAR. but he has a LOT of videos, playlists, he's got the idea of Youtube down pretty well.

Next as mentioned you need to pick popular covers if you want to play modern music, or possibly unique pieces if you are aiming all round.

For example, a couple weeks back I was looking through the "John Field Nocturnes" I wanted to hear a couple of performances so had a look online, I think in all Youtube I only found one playlist that had them all, and didn't find more than 1-2 performances of each piece.

Making some good playlists like that will attract more users.

Lastly and this may be the underlying ultimate cause. You may not be any good?

I can't watch the videos I'm at work, but you do have some particularly random videos on there, you go from Czerny to Shania Twain.

You can always pay for advertising.

Thanks for explaining the reasons, why I don't get a lot of views in Youtube. I was not planning to release Youtube videos in the first place because of my mediocrity, but I am now 27 and as a musician I'm due to release Youtube videos because I feel obligated. However, I happen to hate the music of the 21st century and I have to stay true to my preferences, but I have a plan. I am not stagnant, the only direction I am going is upwards. I will be taking a course in my school called Introduction to Jazz Performance. They start you from scratch to improvise and play jazz with a band. No audition is required. By that time I am playing jazz standards on the piano and comping. I have to figure out how to group my playlists on my channel. Thanks for your advice.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #14 on: February 09, 2016, 05:06:37 PM »
Yup.. that's about the big deal nowadays, people have too narrow tastes in regards to music, only people that have real taste in music finds golden posts like yours. Others will simply view it as-- I quote this, as this is the exact thing a tasteless person said to me "What are you playing? Pure instrumental? It's boring, don't you have anything else better?".

And as adodd said, there are many renditions of a well known piece performed by a well known artist so chances are, people will likely to look for these artists first rather than scrolling through all pages of youtube.

I just watched the half-time show of Superbowl 50. All I can say is that the music of the 21st century is horrible. The melodies of Coldplay and Bruno Mars gives me unpleasant feelings and slight headache.  There is nothing pleasant in their melodies or harmonies. The electric bass drum in Beyonce's song reminds me of my days in high school, where the dominant genre is rap. Those were the lean years for me. I was concerned with the good looking audiences in the half-time show that they are saturated with horrible music. My goal is to become a mainstream music artist and fix this problem. I happen to have good taste in melodies and lyrics. I listen to jazz music during the day and I listen to classical music at night. I listen to Older pop music in the 1970's, which some of the songs there are good quality.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #15 on: February 09, 2016, 05:25:40 PM »
Ooo somebody DOES know their history.

So does that mean you know how to count cards and clean the casinos, what's the secret to winning BlackJack.

yes it was somebody's minor...lol.  my husband is also a golfer which he does with his buddies while I go shopping. :)


Secret to Winning Blackjack

don't f#*king play! LOL  Counting cards basically only tells you if the deck is "rich" in facecards a high count you bet bigger a low count the opposite.   It doesn't tell you who will pull the 21s and blackjacks---more often then not it's the dealer...lol.   There are more complex counting systems... but it's so easy to spot a counter.   they will let you keep playing if you're losing and counting... but they shut your stuff right down and ban you from the table if you are counting and winning. :)  They do not, however, take you in the back and hammer on your hands like in Casino.   They used to...lol... but not anymore.


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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #16 on: February 09, 2016, 05:32:56 PM »
I just watched the half-time show of Superbowl 50. All I can say is that the music of the 21st century is horrible. The melodies of Coldplay and Bruno Mars gives me unpleasant feelings and slight headache.  There is nothing pleasant in their melodies or harmonies. The electric bass drum in Beyonce's song reminds me of my days in high school, where the dominant genre is rap. Those were the lean years for me. I was concerned with the good looking audiences in the half-time show that they are saturated with horrible music. My goal is to become a mainstream music artist and fix this problem. I happen to have good taste in melodies and lyrics. I listen to jazz music during the day and I listen to classical music at night. I listen to Older pop music in the 1970's, which some of the songs there are good quality.

 I thought Bruno and Beyoncé's dance off was GREAT!!!   I LOVE BRUNO... yes I will just say it ... he's my guilty pleasure.   That boy is too slick and what a dancer... where's your American spirit Jason?   that is not about the music that's all about the show and it was rockin.  It was the best halftime show since Prince sang Purple Rain in the rain.  Way better than Katy Perry on that cow.


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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #17 on: February 15, 2016, 08:15:59 PM »
I have 10K after ~7 months. :-\

Upload a lot, have good audio/video quality, interact with your commenters/subscribers, and be active all over youtube, commenting here and there. I made this one comment that got 2000+ likes and several hundred replies. My channel traffic spiked because people just clicked on my profile. Then have a good channel trailer to draw people in after they click on your profile. Have catchy titles and eye-catching thumbnails. I don't know.... I'm not exactly and expert myself... XD

Oh yeah, and have good videos.
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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #18 on: February 15, 2016, 08:19:55 PM »
it's funny--I have 1.7 million views... but for the life of me I don't understand why..  

It's because your videos have been on for 9 years. Give a terrible video some time, and it will reach 1000 views at least. Almost any video will.

@OP how bad is the situation? Are you like at 18 views?
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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #19 on: February 15, 2016, 11:39:55 PM »
It's because your videos have been on for 9 years. Give a terrible video some time, and it will reach 1000 views at least. Almost any video will.

@OP how bad is the situation? Are you like at 18 views?

that's not true Noah.   not to say my vids aren't terrible--but my channel hit a million views all at once--it's been steadily declining for 8 years...lol.  I was featured.  I didn't even know it happened until months later.

some vids can stay at 18 views for years.  you have to promote those little devils.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #20 on: February 16, 2016, 01:23:44 AM »
yeah haha I'm not saying yours are bad! I'm saying yours are good AND they have been on for a long time. Both are required for millions of views. I'm saying you have quite a few even if they aren't the best (which yours ARE good) but even if they're not you can still get a few thousand with patience.
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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #21 on: March 04, 2016, 05:27:26 PM »
I Mean firstly, you've only made 30 videos.. I honestly wouldn't expect you to hit big numbers with only 30 unless you got lucky.

Second there isn't any consistency in your videos, no playlists that I can see? In one video you're playing the piano, on another a guitar, on another a Sax, now unless you're a genius at all 3, you're WAY down the list of people that I would want to view.

I would title the videos with something more catchy, I am certain 10000's of people call the piece exactly what it is (the title of the piece) "performed by etc etc" or picking names people may not be looking for or are too vague (eg you have many videos called improvisation or original melody)

Unless people know you, they're not searching for your name. BachScholar as an example nobody has that name, it's easy to spell, easy to remember.

Check him out, he's not the best pianist BY FAR. but he has a LOT of videos, playlists, he's got the idea of Youtube down pretty well.

Next as mentioned you need to pick popular covers if you want to play modern music, or possibly unique pieces if you are aiming all round.

For example, a couple weeks back I was looking through the "John Field Nocturnes" I wanted to hear a couple of performances so had a look online, I think in all Youtube I only found one playlist that had them all, and didn't find more than 1-2 performances of each piece.

Making some good playlists like that will attract more users.

Lastly and this may be the underlying ultimate cause. You may not be any good?

I can't watch the videos I'm at work, but you do have some particularly random videos on there, you go from Czerny to Shania Twain.

You can always pay for advertising.

Hi,
I organized some playlists for my videos and I am still not getting views. The ones that are not getting views are my original compositions. Literally 0 views. I am frustrated. (Throws Pillow)

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #22 on: March 10, 2016, 02:01:21 PM »
I released another Original Composition. I don't expect it will get any views. No one is interested. I plan to release a Miles Davis tune next week. I'll be surprised if it doesn't get any views.

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #23 on: March 10, 2016, 02:12:22 PM »
first order is content, there has to be a demand or a market that consumes similar content (ie searches it out, watches a lot of it, uses youtube recommended related videos to link to it etc).

beyond that it's marketing,  in addition to the fit and finish so to speak (ie video and sound quality), is the 'home image' the teaser image for the video is like a book jacket, does it catch people's attention that might be interested in the content.

key words, if your content is related to highly sought content, the the 'search word bank' is your friend and you need to have an understanding the types of searches your market typically enters, then stick those keywords into your related searches box. this will drive uploads to the search results.

then it's a matter of giving consistent high quality and entertaining content and letting people subscribe and stay subscribed. over time you'll get some views that way.

the biggest things driving the market right now is capitalization of one's 'brand' build a viewer base large enough and sell advertising or endorsements.  if you have a contact on  youtube that does similar and has a very developed channel then collaborating with that person to see if they will host one of your videos and drive traffic to your channel is the next order of business.

from there it's all on you, but just uploading, titling and hoping people will watch is not likely, there are countless numbers of videos uploaded daily and you have to understand how to the the search algorithms work for you

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #24 on: March 10, 2016, 02:15:14 PM »
I released another Original Composition. I don't expect it will get any views. No one is interested. I plan to release a Miles Davis tune next week. I'll be surprised if it doesn't get any views.

ok please don't take this the wrong way... but you are throwing your vids into a literal abyss and feeling sorry for yourself that they get no views.   To get views -- go say nice things on other peoples channels... comment on music that is like yours and network.   There is absolutely no reason for anyone to click on an unknown vid with 0 views--especially if there is nothing that grabs their attention.   They really can't find you in the search engine if you just title your vids with the name of the piece... tag the crap out of them, too.

post your compositions on composer/songwriter forums...  link your vids to your FB, Twitter, instagram all of it.   Be active on social media--just enough to raise your profile--beware of getting sucked into that BS,.

i.e. when you post Miles--tag it with jazz, jazz piano, west coast cool jazz, music, piano, music improvisation.... etc

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #25 on: March 10, 2016, 03:09:09 PM »
Don't take this the wrong way, but why should anyone watch one specific 'original composition' out of the myriad thousands already on YT? Unless there is an obvious good reason to watch yours, people won't. If you can provide something unusual/distinctive as a carrot which may attract viewers to your channel, then you just might get views despite the generic title. (In my case, I have rare repertoire, plus the full radio talk on Alkan by Raymond Lewenthal: the latter certainly does get connoisseur attention, which is exactly what I want - visitor, you might enjoy it, knowing your niche interests!)

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Re: Why don't I get a lot of views in Youtube?
«Reply #26 on: March 10, 2016, 05:48:33 PM »
Don't take this the wrong way, but why should anyone watch one specific 'original composition' out of the myriad thousands already on YT? Unless there is an obvious good reason to watch yours, people won't. If you can provide something unusual/distinctive as a carrot which may attract viewers to your channel, then you just might get views despite the generic title. (In my case, I have rare repertoire, plus the full radio talk on Alkan by Raymond Lewenthal: the latter certainly does get connoisseur attention, which is exactly what I want - visitor, you might enjoy it, knowing your niche interests!)
yes! i am actually super sorry i somehow missed that, I'm on it/on my way right now. Will subscribe/like and work through all your uploads.  :) ;D :D