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Offline octave_revolutionary

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The Speed Demon Community
on: May 15, 2016, 02:06:35 PM
Hey there, forum,

I was thinking that maybe I should post this under "miscellaneous", but the last time I posted there I failed to even get a single reply worth remembering until I relocated the post to "Repertoire". So here we go..... 

Could anybody help me out with this:

What is the "Speed Demon Community"??!!

After attempting to discover who hosts it (apparently a software platform called phpBB), I have not been able to find out who created it, is responsible for it, or who is in charge :-(

Anyway, can anybody here tell me when it was created, by whom? why? Does anybody know anybody who belongs to it?

And btw, wutz wit da zpelling??!! ??? :-[

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #1 on: May 16, 2016, 09:32:26 PM
If it is something like what you have posted here before, then I can tell you THIS...

The Speed Demon Community cannot tell sh*t from Shinola when it comes to music.

Chopin Ballades
Chopin Scherzos 2 and 3
Mephisto Waltz 1
Beethoven Piano Concerto 3
Schumann Concerto Am
Ginastera Piano Sonata
L'isle Joyeuse
Feux d'Artifice
Prokofiev Sonata Dm

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #2 on: May 16, 2016, 09:39:34 PM
If it is something like what you have posted here before, then I can tell your THIS...

The Speed Demon Community cannot tell sh*t from Shinola when it come to music.


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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 02:49:14 AM
Have you tried asking on that forum? I did a whois search on the domain but it looks like it's a private registration.

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 08:51:01 AM
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"England is a country of pianos, they are everywhere."

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 09:27:02 AM
daSDC seems rather dormant these days. Shame. I quite liked it, and beneath the cartoon surface there have been a few actively good musicians posting there.
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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 11:31:05 AM
Savage.

Not sure how old the average contributor is here, but when you get to be 59... you sort of start to figure out that there is not enough time left to mince words...
Chopin Ballades
Chopin Scherzos 2 and 3
Mephisto Waltz 1
Beethoven Piano Concerto 3
Schumann Concerto Am
Ginastera Piano Sonata
L'isle Joyeuse
Feux d'Artifice
Prokofiev Sonata Dm

Offline octave_revolutionary

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 09:18:35 PM
@jimroof What I asked for was information about the Speed Demon Community, not your opinion of it.
If you're planning on continuing to denigrate and degrade pianists with a speed fetish, I suggest you take into account this quote from someome who already answered you appropriately within the context of one of my previous threads:

Emotion in music is not just about bringing tears to your eyes, the excitement caused by awesome chops is an emotion too, just a different one.  I personally think that technique cannot be separated by the music itself so sharply as many other people do.



Very well put. Thanks, kalospiano.

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
daSDC seems rather dormant these days. Shame. I quite liked it, and beneath the cartoon surface there have been a few actively good musicians posting there.

@ronde_des_sylphes So you used to belong to the SDC?!!  :o Or were you just a passive observer? Could you tell me more about it? Is it just a fun Internet group? Or is it more like a cult? Where is it hosted? And who founded it? Is it only for pianists? And how kum dey zpell like dis??? Love to know,

Thanks,

Octave

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
@jimroof What I asked for was information about the Speed Demon Community, not your opinion of it.
If you're planning on continuing to denigrate and degrade pianists with a speed fetish, I suggest you take into account this quote from someome who already answered you appropriately within the context of one of my previous threads:

Very well put. Thanks, kalospiano.

I have no problem whatsoever with bravura and technical excellence.

I just have a serious issue with it when it tramples the music to death and creates something that, instead of sounding exciting and invigorating, sounds more like a Maglev train collision.

It is MUSIC, dammit.  It is NOT a 50 meter dash.  That is my profoundly strong feeling.  And, it actually comes from someone who had to be constantly reigned in on speed... me.
Chopin Ballades
Chopin Scherzos 2 and 3
Mephisto Waltz 1
Beethoven Piano Concerto 3
Schumann Concerto Am
Ginastera Piano Sonata
L'isle Joyeuse
Feux d'Artifice
Prokofiev Sonata Dm

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #10 on: May 17, 2016, 10:17:43 PM
I have no problem whatsoever with bravura and technical excellence.

I just have a serious issue with it when it tramples the music to death and creates something that, instead of sounding exciting and invigorating, sounds more like a Maglev train collision.

It is MUSIC, dammit.  It is NOT a 50 meter dash.  That is my profoundly strong feeling.  And, it actually comes from someone who had to be constantly reigned in on speed... me.
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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #11 on: May 17, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
Holy crap i was on there for less than thirty seconds and was dead from laughter. Anyways its looks like the site have been dormant for a while, but that's not as sad as piano society not having a single new recording in a entire year.  :'( :'( :'(

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #12 on: May 17, 2016, 11:14:50 PM
@ronde_des_sylphes So you used to belong to the SDC?!!  :o Or were you just a passive observer? Could you tell me more about it? Is it just a fun Internet group? Or is it more like a cult? Where is it hosted? And who founded it? Is it only for pianists? And how kum dey zpell like dis??? Love to know,

Thanks,

Octave
Hi, octave. I have an account there but haven't been very active. I think it's the perfect place for you to post your 10/12. Re the lingo, watch Ali G and that might give you some idea. It's not for the humourless, that's for sure. Or fo shu, perhaps ;)
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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #13 on: May 18, 2016, 06:29:39 AM
Hi, octave. I have an account there but haven't been very active. I think it's the perfect place for you to post your 10/12. Re the lingo, watch Ali G and that might give you some idea. It's not for the humourless, that's for sure. Or fo shu, perhaps ;)

I did some digging and it looks like quite the place! I would have loved to be a part of the community, too bad its dead now. :(

Good to know that there are a lot more laid back classical pianists... :D

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 03:14:44 PM
I did some digging and it looks like quite the place! I would have loved to be a part of the community, too bad its dead now. :(

Good to know that there are a lot more laid back classical pianists... :D
Get out of here. You need to look at things more dogmatically. How dare you. Umph.
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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #15 on: May 21, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
Hi, octave. I have an account there but haven't been very active. I think it's the perfect place for you to post your 10/12. Re the lingo, watch Ali G and that might give you some idea. It's not for the humourless, that's for sure. Or fo shu, perhaps ;)

Thanks, ronde. I confess, I was thinking of starting an account there and joining, but now that it's obviously dormant/dying/waning in poularity/whatever, I don't even think it's worth it. I just can't bring myself to understand why the number of posts has recently benn dwindling so dranatically...... could this be a sign that the art of virtuosity is dying?  :-\ :( ???

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #16 on: May 21, 2016, 09:10:29 PM
Thanks, ronde. I confess, I was thinking of starting an account there and joining, but now that it's obviously dormant/dying/waning in poularity/whatever, I don't even think it's worth it. I just can't bring myself to understand why the number of posts has recently benn dwindling so dranatically...... could this be a sign that the art of virtuosity is dying?  :-\ :( ???

No... the part that is being killed is the ART.  When virtuosity becomes the goal, art invariably suffers. 

Music is language.  The great poets were not the ones whose works could be read the quickest.  The great movies do not gain anything by being played at 48 frames per second.  Speed readers actually spend less time journeying through their imagination that those who read at a more typical pace.  And the same goes for music.  It is language.  Faster is not better when it robs the music of its soul.

Tell you what.  Open up the slow movement to Beethoven's Opus 7.  Record that to the best of your musical ability.  Post it here and based upon what I hear I will be open to re-examining your musicianship.  Until such time,  all I have to go on is a 60 second sprint through 10/2 and a bombastic shellacking of 10/12.
Chopin Ballades
Chopin Scherzos 2 and 3
Mephisto Waltz 1
Beethoven Piano Concerto 3
Schumann Concerto Am
Ginastera Piano Sonata
L'isle Joyeuse
Feux d'Artifice
Prokofiev Sonata Dm

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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #17 on: May 21, 2016, 09:37:16 PM
Thanks, ronde. I confess, I was thinking of starting an account there and joining, but now that it's obviously dormant/dying/waning in poularity/whatever, I don't even think it's worth it. I just can't bring myself to understand why the number of posts has recently benn dwindling so dranatically...... could this be a sign that the art of virtuosity is dying?  :-\ :( ???

I suspect it's more probable that the posters are now quite a bit older, have less time to spare, and what was a rather amusing in-joke is no longer quite as funny. I'd like to see it revive - I quite enjoyed lurking there.
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Re: The Speed Demon Community
Reply #18 on: May 22, 2016, 05:00:31 PM
Tell you what.  Open up the slow movement to Beethoven's Opus 7.  Record that to the best of your musical ability.  Post it here and based upon what I hear I will be open to re-examining your musicianship.  Until such time,  all I have to go on is a 60 second sprint through 10/2 and a bombastic shellacking of 10/12.

@jimroof I haven't played Beethoven's op. 7 in 19 years. If I were to return to it now, no matter how much musicality I could muster, or how much professionalism I were to invest in it, it almost certainly would fall flat and wouldn't sound very convincing. There's a time in one's life for everything - for me, the right time to play op. 7 was precisely around that time, and I have had no desire to play it ever since. I've refrained, in fact, from playing quite a large number of pieces that are extraordinarily popular with audiences because I simply don't "feel" them anymore, and to revive them would simply be doing injustice to them, as I would probably have to counterfeit emotion in order to make them musically even minimally palpable, and it might get across to a student-level musician, but not to a true music lover or connoisseur of music. So I won't be playing Beethoven's op. 7. But I have uploaded a non-bombastic (!), non-virtuosic video that you just might like, showing my "other side" - which I'm announcing in my next thread.

Octave
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