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Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing? (Read 5548 times)

Offline dddddmajor

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Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
« on: July 14, 2016, 09:51:09 AM »
Hi,
After the weeks of researching and visiting the piano shops in Auckland, where I live, my family have narrowed our choice into two pianos, Yam C3X and Kawai Gx-3. I personally  prefer the gx-3, though, as I've been grown fond of Kawai after the years of practicing with Kawai k18 console, and I like how it looks very similar to steinway model A, with a nice mellow tone.(found out that they have the exactly same depth). After playing some chopin nocturnes that i finished practicing on gx-3, I just fell in love with it, but I just jumped out of the shop after reading the price tag that says 42995nzd(I mean, you can buy a vintage Steinway model B here in nz with 42k!),
which is 31k usd, I've never seen anything that goes over 42k in nz. Then I visited another store hoping that they would have yamaha C3X in stock, but none of them had one, I suppose it's too new.
But I'm a Korean and I'm visiting Korea 5 months later from now, thus I would be able to set my hands on yam c3x and arrange a shipment. Good news is that Korea sells piano kinda cheaply, cheaper than NZ.
  What I want to ask is that I am quite sure that I wouldn't get very impressed by c3x, i've played a lot of c3s before and i don't like the bright tone of Yamaha, I played c7 once, but only the sound was louder, the tone was still the clear &bright tone. So I would probably stick with Kawai pianos even after I come back from Korea. So how much do you think I am able to bring the price down? Should I just pay 42k(actually, 43k) and starve for a few months? I just can't stop thinking that paying the amount they ask me is the way to get ripped off. 42.9k! I could get myself a good ol' steinway or a nice Audi! How much do you think I should pay to not get ripped off? Should I just purchase a Yamaha c3x and ship it just because it's relatively cheaper?

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Re: Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
«Reply #1 on: July 14, 2016, 11:58:11 AM »
Well, I may be wrong person to answer your question but to me there isn't an upright piano made that is worth that much money to me. I'd start looking at used grand pianos, without hesitation.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
«Reply #2 on: July 14, 2016, 02:16:06 PM »
Mmmm... I'm pretty sure that C3X and GX3's are Grand pianos... not uprights.

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Re: Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
«Reply #3 on: July 14, 2016, 07:56:36 PM »
Mmmm... I'm pretty sure that C3X and GX3's are Grand pianos... not uprights.

I should never post before the morning coffee has fully kicked in. Of course they are ! Well, look for a used one anyway.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
«Reply #4 on: July 14, 2016, 09:55:05 PM »
I should never post before the morning coffee has fully kicked in. Of course they are ! Well, look for a used one anyway.

You mean, look for Rx-3 and yamaha c3 instead?

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Re: Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
«Reply #5 on: July 14, 2016, 10:11:58 PM »
You mean, look for Rx-3 and yamaha c3 instead?

Any used grand you like that is in great condition. But an RX 3 is a nice piano.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: Yamaha C3X vs Kawai Gx-3, fair pricing?
«Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 04:38:51 AM »
Kawai and Yamaha tonal qualities tend to contrast with one another.  Actions with both makes are excellent, although I would give an edge to Kawai's Millenium 3.  It sounds like you already have taken a liking to the GX-3.  Have you tried the C3X?  These two lines have had a tendency to be competitive with one another price wise. Choose the piano that speaks to you.

The price you stated seems close to the MSRP, and there is likely room to negotiate.  Buying new also means you will have to pay that financial premium.  If you want to get the most piano for your money, used is the way to go.  You can get a substantial piano used for that same price. 
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