Fantaisie-Impromptu, and that moment...

[pjjslp]

....when the polyrhythms click and suddenly what you're playing sounds like music instead of a horrible mashup of wrong notes played at the wrong time! (My poor tortured husband is grateful.)

Wanted to get a virtual high five from those who have been there

[stevensk]

  

[vaniii]

Good for you!

Don't celebrate yet; keep you focus.

Play it 10 times in a row in succession without the horrendous sound, and then you may celebrate.


Nonetheless: *High Five*

[pjjslp]

Good for you!

Don't celebrate yet; keep you focus.

Play it 10 times in a row in succession without the horrendous sound, and then you may celebrate.


Nonetheless: *High Five*

How about 20 times not in a row? I'm celebrating just a little, but I will celebrate more when the sections with the accents on the second or third note in each set of sixteenths starts sounding and feeling a bit less stilted. That is tricky.

[quantum]

It is probably better to understand what you did differently to make it click then to beat out repetitions in hopes that it such exercise will make it click.  If you understand what you did, you can recreate it at will, even when things fall apart in performance or when you are tired or distracted. 

*High Five

[adodd81802]

I watched a Youtube Video of BachScholar (I detest most of his things but he is very technical)

And he was doing scales in the 4/3 polyrythm, and you're right for the most part, to be mathematically correct it does sound like a random mashup of notes, but he does keep it in time the whole way through.

[vaniii]

Question: why do people detest this man?

Apart from the needless religious undertone, which, in my opinion is inappropriate and irrelevant, he is quite good as a pianist and teacher.

If it is just by comparison to another pianist, I feel the negative sentiment is unwarranted.

Do explain.

[pjjslp]

I watched a Youtube Video of BachScholar (I detest most of his things but he is very technical)

And he was doing scales in the 4/3 polyrythm, and you're right for the most part, to be mathematically correct it does sound like a random mashup of notes, but he does keep it in time the whole way through.

I watched his video as well, and found about 3 or 4 minutes of it helpful. The rest was overkill, in my opinion, and I found it much more helpful to apply his method to the piece itself rather than scales. It was cracking me up that I suddenly was getting the fingering wrong on C major scales because the polyrhythms were taking my entire focus! I did think his triplets were uneven in the right hand at times when he was doing scales, which demonstrated to me a) how difficult those rhythms are, and b) that my ear was starting to adjust to how it should sound.

[pjjslp]

Question: why do people detest this man?

Apart from the needless religious undertone, which, in my opinion is inappropriate and irrelevant, he is quite good as a pianist and teacher.

If it is just by comparison to another pianist, I feel the negative sentiment is unwarranted.

Do explain.

My issue with BachScholar is that sometimes, what he labels as a "tutorial" is really just him talking and playing pieces or passages at varying speeds. I don't feel like he really offers tips on technique or how to approach something, other than "here it is slow, and now here it is again a few metronome clicks faster."

That has just been my impression based on the limited number of videos I've watched. I generally find Josh Wright's tutorial videos much more useful. No hate here

[pjjslp]

It is probably better to understand what you did differently to make it click then to beat out repetitions in hopes that it such exercise will make it click.  If you understand what you did, you can recreate it at will, even when things fall apart in performance or when you are tired or distracted. 

*High Five

Thanks! I think it was a matter of training my ear to hear the rhythms as correct, and then getting the notes down well enough that I could really attend to each hand separately while playing them together, to hear whether the triplets and sixteenths were even.

My piano is a digital, so I was able to record myself playing at a slow rate and then play it back at a much faster tempo, so I could really hear whether it came together. Wow, I'm really good when my playing is artificially sped up

[dcstudio]

       

My piano is a digital, so I was able to record myself playing at a slow rate and then play it back at a much faster tempo, so I could really hear whether it came together. Wow, I'm really good when my playing is artificially sped up

 

Aren't we all.  Lol

Something about listening to yourself with the aid of modern technology really helps the attitude. It reinforces what you are doing and lets you know that you are on the right track.keep it up

[vaniii]

 My word; she returns. I got worried where have you been?

I am glad you are okay.

[dcstudio]

Thanks  I have been gone a while. Many things have changed.  Not sure when I will share it with the forum but it's been quite a year so far.  I am glad to see that everyone is still here and it's nice to know that my absence didn't go unnoticed.

You have no idea how much that made my day. Thanks

[pjjslp]

 

Aren't we all.  Lol

Something about listening to yourself with the aid of modern technology really helps the attitude. It reinforces what you are doing and lets you know that you are on the right track.keep it up

It really does! Not something I would have considered until I got the digital piano.

I'm glad to see you back, as well! You are a good resource for valuable feedback and advice. (I had been reading for a couple of months but just started posting right around the time you went underground. )

[dcstudio]

I have my students play it painfully slow and with a click track. I love watching their faces light up when they hear it played back at the correct tempo.

I still enjoy recording it then speeding it up especially my improvisations.

It really does make you feel like it's possible to sound that good. It is,after all, your playing.

[adodd81802]

Question: why do people detest this man?

Apart from the needless religious undertone, which, in my opinion is inappropriate and irrelevant, he is quite good as a pianist and teacher.

If it is just by comparison to another pianist, I feel the negative sentiment is unwarranted.

Do explain.

I never said I detest him, I said I detest most of his things. (Obviously I cannot speak for the many people that do test him! )

Religious bashing being one, arrogance being another, for somebody that has not truly made it in the sense of being respected as a performing artist, he holds himself with very high regard.

It's like training and training to be in the olympics, then never making it, making tutorials on how to do it and pretending like you don't need the olympics because you're better than the gold anyway.

In terms of his performances, it's easy to see why he did not make it, because it's very dry, and purely technical. that is, if you set a robot to play a piece, they would play it like he does.

He actually, I have noticed doesn't really play anything with true demand on technique. He's very capable to play from the fingers, and has good control, but actual technique, I don't see him play anything exciting, like he plays very safe.

His La Campanella is lacking.. I can't play that piece, but I honestly, I could make a better job of the 1st minute then he does in the whole piece.

So the issue, really is down to his arrogance, he hasn't earnt the position he believes he holds.

[109natsu]

Congratulations! I've felt that when I was able to play the cadenzas in Prelude a la nuit from Ravel's Rhapsodie Espagnole.

Natsu