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Offline mjames

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Chopin Mazur???!?!
on: September 21, 2016, 11:39:07 PM
IMSLP mentions it but no sheet music, having a hard time finding any other references to it..let alone the sheet music.



Questions:
1. Is it his
2. Is it complete
3. Where can I get the music

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Re: Chopin Mazurka???!?!
Reply #1 on: September 22, 2016, 12:03:18 AM
IMSLP mentions it but no sheet music, having a hard time finding any other references to it..let alone the sheet music.



Questions:
1. Is it his
2. Is it complete
3. Where can I get the music

Hi Mjames.  I don't know much about Chopin.  Here are a couple questions I have for you:

1. Can you provide a link to where IMSLP mentions this work?
2. How did you come by this youtube recording?  It is not labeled to indicate what it is.  It appears to be in d minor. I could see someone composing a small excerpt in the style of Chopin.

Thanks.

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Re: Chopin Mazur???!?!
Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 12:11:45 AM
https://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin

posthumous works without opus numbers, no. 9 "Mazur in G"

The only other I work I know of with "Mazur" in the title is the one I'm working on, rondo a la mazur. Never heard of this of one before, but yeah it might not even be Chopin's. :D

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Re: Chopin Mazur???!?!
Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 12:58:39 AM
https://imslp.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin

posthumous works without opus numbers, no. 9 "Mazur in G"

The only other I work I know of with "Mazur" in the title is the one I'm working on, rondo a la mazur. Never heard of this of one before, but yeah it might not even be Chopin's. :D



This is weird.  Maybe a Chopin expert can explain. Here is link to Wikipedia list of Mazurkas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurkas_(Chopin)
Toward the bottom you will see a d minor Mazurka listed.  It has some kind of KK number.  I see no other listed in d minor.

Here is a link to a Mazurka played in youtube and listed as mazurka in d minor:

It sounds kind of familiar to me.  Is it mislabeled?  YES.  IT IS IN G MINOR.

The problem with small excerpts is they can easily be by someone writing in the style of and getting close to the sound (a fake).  This excerpt maybe sounds a little "off" to me.  A larger excerpt would reveal a lot more.

Sorry I can't help more. See what others say.

EDIT: the complete d minor Mazurka in youtube link above was mislabeled.  It is the g minor mazurka.

The "Mazur" excerpt you show is in d minor.

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Re: Chopin Mazur???!?!
Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 01:11:42 AM
That's op. 67 no. 2 in g minor. Lol, nevermind you edited.

I know what key the excerpt is in, what I was saying that the only place with a reference to a solo piece titled "Mazur" by Chopin (asides from Op. 5) is in IMSLP, and it's in g. For all I know they could be two completely different pieces... XD oh well

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Re: Chopin Mazur???!?!
Reply #5 on: September 22, 2016, 01:13:33 AM
That's op. 67 no. 2 in g minor.

Thanks!  I just figured that out myself and edited my post.  :)

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Re: Chopin Mazur???!?!
Reply #6 on: September 22, 2016, 01:21:56 AM
That's op. 67 no. 2 in g minor. Lol, nevermind you edited.

I know what key the excerpt is in, what I was saying that the only place with a reference to a solo piece titled "Mazur" by Chopin (asides from Op. 5) is in IMSLP, and it's in g. For all I know they could be two completely different pieces... XD oh well



I agree.  The person who posted the excerpt knows (I am guessing).  I wonder why he/she did not give more info?  Can we even trust it is called "Mazur"?  It is a mystery!!!!

Sorry I couldn't help more.   :)

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Re: Chopin Mazur???!?!
Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 01:40:24 AM
I got it!!!  Check it out and see if you agree. It is KK VIIb/7-8.
Allegretto & Mazurka in A Major-D Minor ; MS sold Paris 21 November 1974



It's at the end of the link.  Nice description is given here.  :)
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