...Yes a lot of people tend to not be honest with themselves at times and we could all be more disciplined. Discipline goes a long way in life.
I agree! The amount of students I've worked with who are very talented but lazy! Consistent and structured approach to any work will get you far, it is a shame that many just dont get that and do just enough to get by. I like the stories of Thomas Edison and his quest to invent the lightbulb or Colonel Sanders who at 60 saw his successful business go to ruin, survived on his pension check and faced many slamming doors to get his chicken noticed once again! I remember telling my students who love Lord the Rings movies when they came out how difficult it was for Tolkien to get his book even published! My young students are often impressed by those stories of persistence if they haven't heard it before.
May I ask what level you teach at? Because I feel this is more a problem with younger students who aren't as interested in music, with students who are more serious it wouldn't be a problem.
I teach a whole range of students from all levels though the frustrations with being honest with ones self does tend to mostly surround beginners/intermediates (thought even advanced students can be fooling themselves in many ways, for example I've had a number of students who have finished all exam grade and yet are not honest with themselves in terms of their sight reading ability, they prefer to ignore it or make excuses why they can't or that they don't feel they even need to improve etc, though I see this putting up of barriers as not being honest with oneself!)
Even with my more advanced students I am still pushing them to work on their discipline but it is at a different level. They practice daily no problem but what about monitoring their goal setting, work ethic, motivation, vision for the future. Goal/dream setting, motivation etc is something that exists even in those who are competent pianists but most of them already know of it and it is the beginners who neglect it completely without honestly giving it a shot!
.....Discipline, and in particular the habit of self-discipline, comes close to being everything, no matter what the musical goals, and of course these vary greatly with the individual.
I agree strongly with this ted. I feel so sad for the student who has lots of talent but they spoil it with their lack of self discipline. I often think of it all like the "tortoise and the hare" fable, i really love tortoises who are persistent no matter how slow, its much better than those bursts of inspiration from talented people who lack motivation to apply themselves! For some reason I'm thinking of Mussorgsky and his alcoholic addiction, I wonder what he would have produced if he was clean!
And its importance carries over into old age, at which stage many musicians seem lamentably to stand still. At sixty-nine, I couldn't bear that; I have to work at new ideas every day else I would just as soon labour in the garden. My teacher had the opposite problem with me. I used to work myself into the ground each week to do just a few of the things his gifts allowed him to do at once.
"I understand how difficult it must be for you Ted," he kept on saying, "but you'll get it one day. Might take you about ten years but you will get it if you work, I can tell." He was right. Practically exactly at the ten year mark, things started to happen. Sad he didn't live to see most of it.
So your pupils will certainly reap the rewards, musical and otherwise, in the distant future, of any discipline you can impart, even if you might not be around to see it.
Very wise words Ted and something I do have to still tell myself. I don't necessarily have to see the immediate effect sometimes it can have the larger effect many years down the track. Last year I got a message from one of my students I had taught some 15 years earlier when he was a 5 year old child. I really just wanted him to enjoy piano and find his love for it, he was talented but I always reminded him that the teacher can't make him better he has to do most of the work on his own and I will make sure he stays on track.
I remember the last piece we worked on was a pretty full on version of the Starwars Title theme which he was infatuated with, large chords for a young boy but he managed it all, when I saw him again years later he played for me Mephisto Waltz no 1, Un Sospiro and Shubert famous Impromptu no3. Was so impressed with his progress and was really flattered he said it was the love for piano that I taught him at the start that fueled his desire to go further and further.
So yes you are so right, sometimes we are not meant to see the effect we have on our students, but some of them remember it even if we don't or didn't even realize it! Come to think of it there are many teachers I adore from my past who have no idea how much they actually helped me in my life even today.
Dicipline is not actually necessary though... It's something that comes with personality and/or is learned at early age. I've never had any. Even as a child no-one could force me to do anything, I was stubborn as a mule.
I don't think people can be naturally disciplined 100% of the time 24 hours a day 7 days a week (unfortunately we do need to sleep sometimes haha). There are certainly days of inspiration where we want to do nothing else but work, then there are days were we feel like crap and just want to do nothing, we are human after all with emotions not robots. I think most is learned while you are younger you're right, it is just a lot easier if a child is brought up with concept of discipline, not doing things only when you feel like it and accept sometimes work is not so convenient. An old dog can still learn new tricks and even adults who live a chaotic life can impose some kind of discipline in their life and then once they honestly meet with it it can make a lot of changes not only in piano but other areas of life.
Now as an adult I have had to create some daily routines and tricks to lure me into practicing on the days when I am less inclined, but never am I able to force myself and sometimes I just don't these days. What boosts me to practice is knowing my playing sucks and believing that I might be able to do something about it with regular intelligent practice. If I thought I was any good I probably wouldn't bother...
Sometimes on days were I feel so unmotivated to physically play the piano I will work on other things which doesn't require me to play, such as exploring repertoire, organising my work space etc etc. So long it has something to do with my music. Sometimes just watching a movie about music, or going to art gallery, watching the symphony orchestra live, going to watch some buskers etc, all of this renews my motivational energy to do music.
Piano can be such a solitary pastime, it is actually nice to join in with groups of people who like music, meet occasionally and be a part of a community. This I have found inspired me a huge amount to learn more doing music outside of the work space (teaching and my own study) when you have a community to connect with. Last year I found
https://www.meetup.com it was really fun to meet with piano people in my area socially.