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Offline ehpianist

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Diabolus in Musica
on: January 10, 2005, 12:22:14 PM
Can you help me make a list  of all pieces associated with the devil, hell and other such infernal themes.  Not just for piano, but for all classical genres.

Liszt Dante
Liszt Mephisto Waltzes
Moussorgsky Night on Bald Mountain
Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique
Mozart Don Giovanni

please continue... no matter how cliché please write down all the pieces that come to mind and their composers.

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Offline xvimbi

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 01:24:34 PM
Some pieces that come to mind:

Dvorak: Kate and the Devil (opera)
Guiseppe Tartini: Sonata in G minor (The Devil's Trill)
Frank: Le Chasseur Maudit
anything dealing with Faust, e.g. Gounod: Faust (opera)

I'll keep my eyes open.
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Offline rafant

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 05:44:10 PM
Saint Saens: Danse Macabre
Mozart: Don Giovanni
Dukas: The Sorcerer's Apprentice
Rachmaninoff: Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini
Liszt:: Totentanz
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 06:01:04 PM
a lot of Scriabins music
vers la flamme (towards the flames)op72
poeme satanique op36
sonata 6 op62
sonata 9 op68(black mass)
I others that I cant remember right now
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Offline ujos3

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 06:52:14 PM

Alkan    Scherzo Diabolique

Meyerbeer       Robert le Diable (opera)
Liszt                Robert le Diable variations (piano)
Chopin            Robert le Diable (piano, cello)-Gran duo concertant

Stravinsky       Histoire d'un soldat
 
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Offline ehpianist

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 07:19:02 PM
How could I forget, Prokofiev's Suggestion Diabolique and Ligeti's l'escalier du diable.

More orchestral/chamber works if you can think of any.

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #6 on: January 10, 2005, 07:34:53 PM
giussepe tartini "La Sonate du Diable" (Violin sonata)
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #7 on: January 10, 2005, 07:47:19 PM
Liszt : Mephisto Polka ; Parcours satanique, Paraphrase sur Robert le Diable

I've just discovered "Diabolus in Musica" stands for the interval F-B, considered devilish in ancient times, because of its dissonance...
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #8 on: January 10, 2005, 07:51:52 PM
Weber : Freischutz
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Offline SteinwayTony

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #9 on: January 10, 2005, 09:53:42 PM
Prokofiev's Opus 4 cycle for solo piano has a piece called Suggestion Diabolique...I think it's the fourth one (there are four in total) but I'm not sure.
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #10 on: January 10, 2005, 10:42:26 PM
Scriabin: Prometheus:Poem of Fire, The Preparation for the Final Mystery
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Offline donjuan

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #11 on: January 10, 2005, 11:12:42 PM
Bellini - Norma
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #12 on: January 10, 2005, 11:39:30 PM
Smetana's Opera The Devil's Wall (Certiva Stena) composed in 1882

The opera deals with plans for the marriage of Vok Vítkovic, whose courtiers desire an heir for him, while the hermit Benesÿ prefers that he stay single, to ensure the bequest of his property to the church. Benesÿ is helped by the devil Rarach, who sometimes assumes his identity and brings Vok into danger by damming the river Vltava, an event recounted in local Czech legend. All comes out well enough in the end, when Hedwika shows her love by crossing the flooded area, a demonstration of her love for Vok, who marries her, while Benesÿ breaks the curse of the dam.

Heinrich Marschner's Opera The Vampire

The subject is taken from Lord Byron's tale of the same name. The scene is laid in Scotland in the seventeenth century and illustrates the old Scottish legend of the vampire, a phantom monster which can only exist by sucking the heart-blood of sleeping mortals.

Cesar Franck's Oratorio- Les Beatitudes (1869-79) One of The Bass Soloists sings the part of Satan.

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Offline rafant

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #13 on: January 11, 2005, 05:47:58 PM
Tchaikovski: Overture Francesca da Rimini (after Inferno V, by Dante)
Tchaikovski: Symphonic Poem Manfredo
Rachmaninoff: Opera Francesca da Rimini
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Offline ehpianist

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #14 on: January 12, 2005, 01:20:11 AM
Great suggestions!  Please keep them coming!


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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #15 on: January 12, 2005, 02:06:31 AM
Two more operas come to mind.

"The Devil and Daniel Webster" by Douglas Moore
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"The Devils of Loudon" by Penderecki
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #16 on: January 12, 2005, 02:17:16 AM

J. Strauss             Diavolin-Polka Op.244

K. Penderecki       The Daemons of Loudun (Opera)

P. Hindemith         The Demon (Opera and Ballet suite)
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Offline allchopin

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #17 on: January 12, 2005, 05:07:28 AM
Chopin: 'Devil's Trill' Prelude in Eb minor Op. Post
Liszt: Mephisto Waltz (Mephisto Polka, what is this...)
Wagner: Flight of the Valkries
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #18 on: January 12, 2005, 01:23:34 PM
3 more operas:

Monteverdi: Orfeo
Gluck: Orfeo ed Euridice
Offenbach: Orphee aux Enfers

To Allchopin: Why Flight of the Walkiries?
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #19 on: January 12, 2005, 02:48:04 PM
Quote from: allchopin on January 12, 2005, 05:07:28 AM
Chopin: 'Devil's Trill' Prelude in Eb minor Op. Post
Yo, what do you mean
Chopin never wrote a posthumous prelude in eb minor
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #20 on: January 12, 2005, 04:37:41 PM
BTW

Supposedly Suggestion Diabolique is a mistranslation...
A closer "interpretation" would be "obsessive hallucination".  Nothing related to the devil. (that's what a Russian chick told me).

How about Schubert's Erlkonig?
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #21 on: January 12, 2005, 04:54:29 PM
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #22 on: January 12, 2005, 05:39:05 PM
Quote from: allchopin on January 12, 2005, 04:54:29 PM
A recording of the lost prelude here (by Kallberg):
https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~kallberg/Prelude.mp3

Man, when Chopin wrote this he must have been on drugs or in serious troubles. Maybe the performance is just bad, or my speakers have a mind of their own...
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #23 on: January 12, 2005, 05:46:49 PM
Quote from: xvimbi on January 12, 2005, 05:39:05 PM
Man, when Chopin wrote this he must have been on drugs or in serious troubles.
I guess you don't consider slowly dying from TB serious troubles..  ::)
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #24 on: January 12, 2005, 05:54:52 PM
Quote from: allchopin on January 12, 2005, 04:54:29 PM
zz:
https://www.riprense.com/Chopin.htm

A recording of the lost prelude here (by Kallberg):
https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~kallberg/Prelude.mp3
Thanx
interresting,
new music by chopin.
never thought I would experience that.
is there more stuff like that somewhere...
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #25 on: January 13, 2005, 04:00:06 AM
it doesnt say  anything about the piece in its title, but prokofiev's toccata opus 11 is one hellish piece.
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #26 on: January 13, 2005, 12:50:41 PM
Another opera:

Arrigo Boito: Mefistofele
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Offline ehpianist

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #27 on: January 15, 2005, 03:30:01 PM
Quote from: Maxy on January 12, 2005, 04:37:41 PM
BTW

Supposedly Suggestion Diabolique is a mistranslation...
A closer "interpretation" would be "obsessive hallucination". Nothing related to the devil. (that's what a Russian chick told me).

How about Schubert's Erlkonig?

Very interesting comment about the Prokofiev mistranslation.  I will have to investigate that.

Ah, Die Erlkonig!  I forgot about that one. Thank you.

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #28 on: January 16, 2005, 10:57:16 AM
paganini caprice for solo violin no.13  nicknamed the devils chuckle
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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #29 on: January 18, 2005, 06:34:31 PM
Humperdinck: Hansel und Gretel (opera)

For further investigation, since I'm not sure if the source of the work is demon-related:

Dvorak: The Noon Witch.
Auber: Fra Diavolo (Diavolo sounds as demon in spanish: "Diablo", but maybe I'm wrong, sorry)

Since sorcery is a demon manifestation, any witch-related music works well for this list.
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Offline ehpianist

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #30 on: January 23, 2005, 10:01:07 AM
Doesn't Stravinsky's Rake Progress fall into this category?  Isn't it a Faustian tale?

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Re: Diabolus in Musica
Reply #31 on: March 23, 2005, 01:50:06 PM
How come no one's mentioned Tartini's Devil's Trill?
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