Congratulations to everyone that voted for Donald Trump

[georgey]

America First.  Make America Great Again.  Voters were in the position to make an informed decision when they cast their ballots last November.  We had plenty opportunity to know Donald Trump before the election.  No surprises for me so far.  We will see how things continue.  I congratulate everyone that voted for Donald Trump.

[themeandvariation]

At the beginning of the last GOP convention, Trump's campaign was in shambles.  Then The Mercer family jumped in (top .001%) with his 'Cambridge Analytica' team, used Facebook for fake news - and where most users admit to using That as their news.  (note that Peter Theil - bedsides funding Facebook is a Trump supporter)  Breitbart's  Bannon jumped in (who funded "Clinton Cash") w/K.A. Conway.. Roger Stone and his connection to WIKKILEAKS.. not to mention Comely, who has a history of going after the Clinton's.. So, without this injection, it would have turned differently.  
Not to mention what happened to the Real populist - who represented working people - Sanders - who was effectively squeezed out - discriminated against by the dem. elite.
 
Utimately - we get what we deserve - sadly this is based on the ability to think - and act.  

Georgey, i am guessing that your 'congratulations' a facetious sentiment, but i never know these days.

[Bob]

The headlines look like some made up tabloid.... but it's real.

[Bob]

This is probably what prompted this post today.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/donald-trump-news-conference-transcript/index.html


I heard about it.  Still watching it.

[perfect_pitch]

Too long, didn't read.

America voted him in... America can deal with it.

[themeandvariation]

well, PP.
It's a small world, and Trump's effect won't be limited to America..
I hope he is not impeached, as the rest of the team I believe are even more dangerous.. As long as he is bumbling his way thru, there is a vacuum for serious push back to cut thru the chaos.
(Yes, except for this one caveat:  to think an unstable adolescent has his finger on the button is quite …. nuts.)

[perfect_pitch]

well, PP.
It's a small world, and Trump's effect won't be limited to America..

It's a very large world, and most of the crap that Trump does, will directly affect the american people. It won't really affect us - most countries now don't want anything to do with him.

[themeandvariation]

"It won't really affect us - ".. Really?  This sounds like a 'faith trip'.. (and from an avowed atheist, no less and is not based on anything, really.
 Hey, PP - if memory serves, i think your are an Aussie.. (could be wrong, of course) .. But,… that phone call to prime minister Malcolm Turnbull didn't bode so well.. https://nypost.com/2017/02/01/trump-blasted-australian-prime-minister-during-worst-call-by-far/


Also, there is talk of setting up military bases there -  in case of a 'kerfluffle' w/ China.

So, it may indeed affect you - if you are Aussie.. and if you are not, it doesn't mean you are where the high water doesn't hit, so to speak, though, i hope not.

anywho, i won't bum your trip any further.. Cheers!

[georgey]

I get most of my fake news from CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and other fake news organizations.  I also occasionally listen to FOX to get fair and balanced real news.  KEEPING THIS IN MIND, here is my attempt to make sense of his election using my logic.  

Why would someone vote for a perhaps unqualified, perhaps temperamentally challenged person to be president?  Maybe to send a HUGE stink bomb (F you) to our politicians who have not been able to get much done in the past several years due to the right moving farther to the right and the left moving farther to the left.  No more governing from the middle.  Compromise is a dirty word now.  So whenever Trump gives a press conference and acts perhaps almost as an unhinged person, his base loves it.  The stink bomb has released its fumes once again and will continue for the next 4 years.

The problem is:  Is this really helping?  We shall see.  Maybe his supporters are super geniuses that are able to see things way past my ability to comprehend.  I realize my stink bomb theory may be way off.

[themeandvariation]

Georgey,
you mention: "and the left moving farther to the left."  Maybe on social issues, but from an economic standpoint, i believe it has been steadily drifting to the right since Bill Clinton took office, and repealed Glass-Steagall act, etc. such that Hilary's economics  are more in line with what used to be a moderate republican position.. The Dems elite were shaken by Bernie's economics - and appear to have toned down the necessariness of his message.  But i do believe his message reached a giant wave of support from the voters, who are still watching, and organizing.. https://www.indivisibleguide.com/web/
We shall see how the Dem. Reps.  deal with this 'complexity'.  

[mjames]

It's a very large world, and most of the crap that Trump does, will directly affect the american people. It won't really affect us - most countries now don't want anything to do with him.

You're right. I don't care if Americans want to treat themselves like sh*t, I honestly don't care about their domestic policies at all. However, their foreign policy has an incredible effect on the rest of the world, whether you like it or not. If the Americans don't like a leader and as a result want to replace him, all they have to do is get the entire West under their belt through the power of media and invade countries under the false pretense of saving them (see the last 60 years of the US' military history for proof.) Then again I'm not from the middle east or south america, so I still don't really care *that* much. Here's a few things though:

1. since the early 1800s hundreds, mathematicians and physicists were building up incredible theoretical insight into how gases could severely effect global temperatures. Of course that's not enough, it's "just math." Politicians don't give a sh*t about that.

2. Early 1900s, scientists actually began gathering actual evidence that industrialization could potentially harm the biosphere. Nope not enough.

3.  1950 "anthropogenic" climate change already on its way to become "established science" (next to cell theory, quantum mechanics, evolution, germ theory etc). Nope, governments by large still not listening.

4. 1990s, people start to listen albeit reluctantly. Hardly anything is done.

5. 2000s, and 2010s: people from regions that have NEGLIGIBLE greenhouse gas contributions are now suffering from increased droughts, extreme weather, which are all directly caused by global warming. Meanwhile people from a country that's in the top 5 contributors to greenhouse gases in not only the past 15 years but the last two centuries, have now elected a man and an administration that vehemently opposes climate science and frequently refers to it as a hoax.

If the States aren't *** you over with their imperialism, they're indirectly *** you over by destroying ecosystems. Of course that doesn't matter to "le climate science is a lie folks" because they had the luck to be born in a country with a great culture, leading them to be surrounded by one of the greatest minds in our time. Even if America gets fucked by global warming, they'll have it easier. Meanwhile in sub-saharan Africa, people not only have to worry about crappy wars, corruption, idiotic governance, but now also have to worry about no longer being able to rely on agriculture: mass famine. All because Westerners by large refuse to listen to their scientists.

Americans can go *** themselves.

[georgey]

You're right. I don't care if Americans want to treat themselves like sh*t, I honestly don't care about their domestic policies at all. However, their foreign policy has an incredible effect on the rest of the world, whether you like it or not. If the Americans don't like a leader and as a result want to replace him, all they have to do is get the entire West under their belt through the power of media and invade countries under the false pretense of saving them (see the last 60 years of the US' military history for proof.) Then again I'm not from the middle east or south america, so I still don't really care *that* much. Here's a few things though:

1. since the early 1800s hundreds, mathematicians and physicists were building up incredible theoretical insight into how gases could severely effect global temperatures. Of course that's not enough, it's "just math." Politicians don't give a sh*t about that.

2. Early 1900s, scientists actually began gathering actual evidence that industrialization could potentially harm the biosphere. Nope not enough.

3.  1950 "anthropogenic" climate change already on its way to become "established science" (next to cell theory, quantum mechanics, evolution, germ theory etc). Nope, governments by large still not listening.

4. 1990s, people start to listen albeit reluctantly. Hardly anything is done.

5. 2000s, and 2010s: people from regions that have NEGLIGIBLE greenhouse gas contributions are now suffering from increased droughts, extreme weather, which are all directly caused by global warming. Meanwhile people from a country that's in the top 5 contributors to greenhouse gases in not only the past 15 years but the last two centuries, have now elected a man and an administration that vehemently opposes climate science and frequently refers to it as a hoax.

If the States aren't *** you over with their imperialism, they're indirectly *** you over by destroying ecosystems. Of course that doesn't matter to "le climate science is a lie folks" because they had the luck to be born in a country with a great culture, leading them to be surrounded by one of the greatest minds in our time. Even if America gets fucked by global warming, they'll have it easier. Meanwhile in sub-saharan Africa, people not only have to worry about crappy wars, corruption, idiotic governance, but now also have to worry about no longer being able to rely on agriculture: mass famine. All because Westerners by large refuse to listen to their scientists.

You deal in facts and science.  Here is an alternative fact: The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Trump is an egotistical, incompetent, intellectually vacuous, self-obsessed pathologically insecure manchild who shouldn't be let anywhere near a position of political responsibility, and the living embodiment of how badly wrong protest votes can go.

That said, feel free to enjoy this link. https://trumpdonald.org/

[georgey]

Trump is an egotistical, incompetent, intellectually vacuous, self-obsessed pathologically insecure manchild who shouldn't be let anywhere near a position of political responsibility, and the living embodiment of how badly wrong protest votes can go.

That said, feel free to enjoy this link. https://trumpdonald.org/

I've been playing around with this link for the past 20 minutes.  Not bad but starting to lose interest.

[georgey]

@mjames:  I know my last reply probably did not help.  Here are a few thoughts:  Trump will only be president for another 4 to 8 years.  Trump may not be as bad on global warming as we fear.  The Chinese may now take a leading role in slowing global warming.  We may be able to develop alternative solutions with new technologies if we reach the point of no return with global warming.  You may be able to live your life in reasonable comfort even with global warming.  We will need good scientists so keep up with your studies.  That’s about all I can come up with.

[Bob]

I can't see him getting a second term.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was impeached (impeached and actually kicked out instead of just impeached but continuing to do everything despite being impeach), except I heard the people who would have to impeach him are also incompetent.

The whole thing is going to tick off enough people that they'll come out and next the time around, and whoever the Democrats put up will get voted in.  Or maybe things would really get nuts with people voting and a third party candidate would actually get elected.

I've heard China is expanded out while the US is now retracting.

And it was good to see even if Trump lets things like more pollution be legal that companies were continuing to green up on their own despite that.

[visitor]

Ok bye. *walk away....or towards you....or away and towards you....

[georgey]

I want to conclude this thread by saying I have no bad feelings for most of the people that voted for Donald Trump.  I believe or hope that most cast their vote in good faith.  Certainly I don’t have bad feelings for ANY of the members of Pianostreet!!!  I also want to say that I am hoping Trump will be as successful of a president as he is capable of being.  Regards.    

[Bob]

https://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/media/cnn-blocked-white-house-gaggle/




I wonder what "freedom of the press" means exactly for having access.

He's going to get impeached (and actually removed, not just impeached-but-carry-on-things-like-normal) or assassinated.  Geez.  There are the normal nuts out there always doing things, but the target is unusual.  And then the quiet/reasonable people are probably going to become more visible at some point.

I also wonder who's next?

[themeandvariation]

"Somebody was clearly lying back then, but it wasn’t the “Lügenpresse” (lying press) "

https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/02/19/trump-uses-80-year-old-playbook-discredit-media/

[georgey]

Q: What is the difference between fake news and real news?
A: Fake news is real and real news is fake.

If Trump says news is fake, then it is fake.  If Trump says news is real, then it is real.  Any questions? 

[ahinton]

Q: What is the difference between fake news and real news?
A: Fake news is real and real news is fake.

If Trump says news is fake, then it is fake.  If Trump says news is real, then it is real.  Any questions? 

Yes. Who's Donald Trump?

Best,

Alistair

[georgey]

Yes. Who's Donald Trump?

Best,

Alistair

Donald Trump is the 45th president of the USA.  He won the recent presidential election bigly (more bigly than anyone before).  He likes to tweet and enjoys playing golf.  His slogans are “Make America Great Again”, “America First” and “Drain the Swamp”.