Any well-rounded artist will know the musical matter in the the way needed to deliver a top-quality piano lesson.
If you find a super talented pianist who teaches...
After years of trying to find out the best way to go about it ....
. Who can be better to teach you than someone who knows music to perfection?
The same intelligence artists apply to their performances can be applied to deliver wonderful teaching. Why?Because you need to be very smart to be able to position yourself in the place of your student - to try and think as he thinks- ....
Have you ever taken a lesson with a real concert pianist
. I wouldn’t suggest to go for someone who is not doing very well. Why? Because, that professional would do whatever he considers necessary to keep you as his student.
If you find out your teacher is delivering 10 hours of teaching every day, then you are in trouble. No artist can keep up with that sort of schedule. Teaching is very energy consuming. Your teacher needs to be a well-balanced individual who has a musical discipline and therefore can teach you how to develop one. It is not advisable to deliver more than 25 hours of solid teaching. Basically because after that, it stops being solid teaching...
5. RecordingsEveryone looks great on papers. For that reason, you need to check if your teacher has any professional recordings published on the internet -Youtube, Vimeo... It doesn’t matter if they are ancient, but at least you should find something there. A good pianist will always has a comprehensive collection of professional video recordings online to promote his own artistry.
This view regarding 'adult piano learners' - "Do not assume that teachers necessarily have these goals in mind, especially for adults. Many believe, or have found, that adults want quick results, don't want to work too hard or too long,.." has now been reinforced…
Sorry, Keypeg.I wasn't meaning to characterize the whole of your post - as i am in much agreement - but when i saw that 'snippet' of your post catching some steam, i wanted to respond to Just that bit of it..
If you find a super talented pianist who teaches, then you are safe for sure.
The same intelligence artists apply to their performances can be applied to deliver wonderful teaching.
2. He needs to be established, or at least his studio needs to be established.
3. He needs to have time to practise
4. He needs to be reliable
5. Recordings
6. Strong personality
What I mean is that your teacher can't be in a situation in which he remains at your mercy in order to be able to eat. It sounds quite harsh but it is the crude reality. If someone is in such delicate situation and has to choose between eating or telling you the truth about your mediocre performance skills...
I mean your teacher has to be confident about himself. If by means of strong educational and professional morals or by means of not needing the money, it doesn't really matter.
Finding a good piano teacher is always a challenge. Particularly when we are beginners and we don’t know what to look for.
I use "his" as it is too much work to specify he/she in every sentence. Just a bit rebellious against the English language . In Spanish the masculine article can be used to refer to any subject without being offensive.-
I use "his" as it is too much work to specify he/she in every sentence.
Yeh, but you ain't in Spain are ya?
Here's a little tip, use the word "they" instead of he/she or "their" instead of his/her or is a few extra letters too much for you to type? Why bother giving yourself an excuse here, so dumb.Exactly and they are not writing in Spanish either -_-
I will definitely take the advice on using "they" instead of "he" Thank you for that You can try and see my point or not, but the fact remains the same. When we look for a reliable piano teacher we look for an independent character, someone who can make a decision based on what he or she believes right for us as students and not as clients. I believe this statement doesn't leave a lot of room for controversy...
in terms of his / her qualification, a proven track of success in music should definitely be a point on his / her favour...
I will definitely take the advice on using "they" instead of "he" Thank you for that
....in terms of his / her qualification, a proven track of success in music should definitely be a point on his / her favour,... or not?!
We (pianists) will all agree in that it is much easier to go to school and get a Diploma than actually gather all the skills and knowledge needed to perform in front of an audience.
I think you have all missed the hidden point of wkmt's post.For adult beginners, there is almost zero choice in finding a teacher. There are hardly any out there.This may change somewhat as Skype and its competitors become more standard. But it's always going to be a problem. wkmt's answer is "go to my school." A more general answer is "go to a piano school." My experience with friends who've gone that route is that they didn't make much progress; school teaching is of unpredictable quality. But then, so is individual teaching.
A good teacher is someone smart. A pianist who plays difficult pianist is smart. A pianist who plays difficult pieces successfully will be able to provide decent teaching to a student who pays attention. A teacher that is confident, inspires confidence and trust. That's what I mean with someone who can really tell you what he believes regardless of any other framing. www.wkmt.co.uk
Yes, it can take a little work to find one, as all teachers do not teach adults--- but they are there. Zero chance? No. there is a high probability of finding one.
I think you have all missed the hidden point of wkmt's post.
For adult beginners, there is almost zero choice in finding a teacher. There are hardly any out there.
I didn't say almost zero chance, I said almost zero choice.Most teachers will not teach adult beginners, and for very good reasons. So while it is possible to find a teacher, it takes effort and you don't have the luxury of choosing between a number of alternatives. You may find one or none in your area.
The hidden point of wkmt's post is that he is seeing it only from the point of view of his own teaching and his own school.
I think the hidden point of wkmt's post is the list of teacher attributes that can be met in his school. And maybe only in his school. It's not intended to be a guide for a naïve student trying to choose a private teacher from a large population of them.
Before responding to any of this, I spent considerable time visiting the school's site, reading what he had to say, reading and watching what was said on the site by other teachers, listened to excerpts of teacher workshops, and I also listened to students playing at the school.Before going further --- when you suggest what wkmt must have meant and what the mindset is, have you done the same? Or are you guessing and extrapolating?
An adult beginner is worse off, because of the total population of piano teachers only a small minority are willing to teach adults.
Before responding to any of this, I spent considerable time visiting the school's site, reading what he had to say, reading and watching what was said on the site by other teachers, listened to excerpts of teacher workshops, and I also listened to students playing at the school.Before going further --- when you suggest what wkmt must have meant and what the mindset is, have you done the same? Or are you guessing and extrapolating?Any posts we see here have begun as posts on the site, and are surely meant to advertise the school, and those posts then get pasted into various forums of which PianoStreet is only one. It establishes a presence. Dialogue may also be be a secondary purpose - but in general there is not much real dialogue. That is, what we write is barely responded to.Whatever it is intended for - it is posted in this forum, with the first sentence being about beginners looking for a good teacher. Many people are lost on this point when they decide to take lessons, so if they take wrong advice, or take advice the wrong way, it can be to their hurt.
Thank you Keypeg for doing proper investigation on our website. That is exactly the kind of professional discussion we are looking for. You mention that what is actually needed by a beginner is a teacher who can insist on the basics. Well, that is totally true! I can't agree more. But normally a good pianist will do that too. If he is a real performer, a true perfectionist, he or SHE won't allow a student to get away with unacceptable mistakes.
From that perspective is that I'm mentioning that high standard piano professionals make good piano teachers.
Would you take a golf lesson from the best player in the world?Or, from his teacher?
So now it's about how to choose the best two piano teachers?
I love this debate, it is truly everyone's issue. Well, in a nutshell, checking our teacher's portfolio can definitely tell us lots about his/her professional and personal approach to music. If you are an advanced student doing this research is particularly important. If you are a beginner, Keypeg is quite right, a professional and insistent teacher could actually work, quite well even if he or she is not a superlative pianist.