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Offline chopinawesome

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Chopin Scherzo No.4 in E Op.54
on: May 19, 2017, 04:13:39 AM
I have been listening to the 4th Scherzo by F.Chopin lately. :) At first,I didn't seem to care for it. But then, it grew on me, and now it is one of my favorite works by Chopin. I am not really sure on how hard it is, because I have seen some people say that it is one of the technically lighter ones and others saying it is harder than Ballade no.4. I looked at the score, and it doesn't seem so difficult. I tried playing it SLOWLY(sight-reading), and I found it much easier than scherzo no.2.

So the 4th scherzo actually that difficult? What pieces can you compare it to in terms of difficulty?
Thanks for your replies. :)
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs
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Offline mjames

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Re: Chopin Scherzo No.4 in E Op.54
Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
Its difficulty lies in the fact that it requires a lot more nuance than any of the other scherzi. If you can play no. 2 then I'm sure you'll do fine if you work hard.

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Re: Chopin Scherzo No.4 in E Op.54
Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 02:30:48 AM
Its difficulty lies in the fact that it requires a lot more nuance than any of the other scherzi. If you can play no. 2 then I'm sure you'll do fine if you work hard.
Thanks, but do you think the other scherzi lack nuance? No.3 has some nuance as well.
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

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Re: Chopin Scherzo No.4 in E Op.54
Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 03:16:21 AM
anyone else?
Beethoven Op 2/2
Chopin Op 20, maybe op 47/38
Debussy Etude 7
Grieg Op 16
Want to do:
Chopin Concerti 1 and 2
Beethoven Waldstein
Ravel Miroirs

Offline symphonicdance

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Re: Chopin Scherzo No.4 in E Op.54
Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 06:21:06 AM
If you can easily manage Chopin's Scherzo #2, then it's likely that you'd find many of his works not too difficult.  Ballade #4 and Scherzo #4 are the more mature works, and I think the challenge will be more about musical / communication than technical.

The diploma syllabus of ABRSM and Trinity (both UK) put the 4 Scherzi, 3 Ballades (#1,2,4), Polonaises #6 & 7 in the same level (licentiate).  Other works also on the same level incl. but not limited to the concert and paganini etudes, transcandental etudes (excluding #1), Hungarian rhapsodies of Liszt.


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