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Offline tomclear

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Alborado del gracioso
on: April 10, 2003, 12:31:20 AM
Anyone else playing Ravel's Alborado del gracioso (pardon misspellings, if necessary).
It's very difficult, but one section seems physically impossible! I refer to the place in the middle section where the left hand has the melody and the right hand is supposedly playing 4 notes: F/G#, F/G#. Am I reading this right? Do you just need big hands or what?
Any help appreciated.

Offline Colette

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #1 on: April 11, 2003, 06:58:27 AM
If I'm resoponding to the right section in Alborada, ( the middle plus lent section), the left hand carries the melody and the right hand accompanies with: E#/Gnatural/E#Gnatural, which is only a ninth, so maybe you were reading it wrong or have a really odd edition ;)

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #2 on: April 12, 2003, 02:01:29 AM
merci infiniment! je fais une betise.

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #3 on: April 12, 2003, 07:06:05 AM
pas probleme

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #4 on: April 20, 2003, 06:24:07 PM
and how do u find those tricky repetitions and double glissandos?( comment trouvez-vous ces repetitions et 2ble glissandos?:) )
...even if I'm not right...;)

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #5 on: April 21, 2003, 11:27:01 PM
I love the double glissandos! Maybe I'm playing them wrong too, but I just put down two fingers and slide. For the repeated notes (you mean like the quintuplets?) I just follow the editor's suggested fingering and it's not impossible.

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[i][/i]Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #6 on: April 22, 2003, 02:30:13 AM
yeah, tomclear, those gliss r fun!! especially when u keep listening 2 d left hand +u pay attention 2 this specific rythmic motive. but at the beginning it happened 2 me that my keyboard was literally covered with my blood!( it was the 3rd finger which suffered so badly from the gliss) maybe my skin is just to soft :)
and the repetiotions-quite a tricky thing when it comes to playing it on some poor instrument. generally, "ca va".
WELL, I LOVE THIS PIECE!!!! i love spanish vibes ( u know the nights in the gardens of spain or fantaisie-beatice by de falla ?), i am on my way to learn flamenco (that will be hilarious- me, a typical blonde dancing with those spanish guys;) ravel is 1 of my beloved- if not the most beloved !! i know all his literature by heart (uhm...as a listener:) , i ve studied alborada , oiseaux tristes and valses nobles et sentimentales;planning 2 play more & more....
do u know an original, orchestral version of this piece?its even cooler!
...even if I'm not right...;)

Offline tomclear

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #7 on: April 22, 2003, 03:25:22 AM
Blood on the keys! How Chopinesque! About the repeated notes: For years I thought my playing had just plateaued and I was never going to be able to play some things--it was the piano! I got a very nice, well-regulated Yamaha and keep it in good condition and have gone back for a second look at things I wrote off years ago.
Do you know L'enfant et les sortileges, Ravel opera? I teach in a French school and my kids really liked it.

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Re: Alborado del gracioso
Reply #8 on: April 22, 2003, 06:20:37 PM
yep, i felt a bit flattered by this view of my blood on the keys;) especially as a compatriote of chopin 8)
i know enfant... very well, its fun!!those colours, the ways he uses the possibilities of d orchestra &human voice... im reading som einteresting biography of ravel by a guy called jankelevitsch (?)( edited in paris ) right now. there is plenty of books on his subject in brussels&in paris - thats why im desperated 2 improve my french as fast as its only possible ( j ai commence il y a qq mois slmnt, mais mntnt je peux parler assez courament;je dois, c est la langue  dont je fais mes cours;) )
vive maurice, ole!:)
...even if I'm not right...;)
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