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Topic: Chopin Scherzo 3  (Read 2208 times)

Kapellmeister27

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Chopin Scherzo 3
on: January 19, 2005, 07:06:07 PM
I'm working on this piece and it seems to be going pretty well so far, but there is a  tricky spot that I'm having trouble with, and I was wondering if anyone could help me.

In the middle of the piece, right before the return of the main theme there are two arpeggios going up in the right hand that I can't seem to gets a smooth or as fast os all of the broken cholrds coming down in the previuous measures.

The notes go: e(3), a#, b#, d#(4), c#, e, a#, b#, d#(5), c#, e, a#, b#, d#(6), c#, e, a#, b#, c#(7)

This is my fingering:  1235412354123541234
something about this arpeggios just seems to make it a lot harder than the rest.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Offline anda

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Re: Chopin Scherzo 3
Reply #1 on: January 19, 2005, 07:59:55 PM
well, my fingering was quite different:

1-2-1-3-2-1-2-1-3-2-1-2-1-3-2-1-2-3-4

Offline jon

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Re: Chopin Scherzo 3
Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 03:02:39 AM
Kapellmeister27, I too am currently working on this piece.On this section that you are talking about I have several methods of practicing it to achieve legato,eveness,and speed.I use the same fingering as you do cause that's what it is in my Dover edition.One of the first things I do is play the arpeggio with a dotted rhythm.Just place an imaginary dot on every other note, changing the rhythm.Also try playing the arpeggio all in staccato, obviously not at full speed, but accurately and evenly.This fingering is probably hard because of the fifth and fourth fingers not being very strong.Try placing a strong accent on the fourth and fifth fingers.Just doing this method for a few days helped me alot.

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Re: Chopin Scherzo 3
Reply #3 on: January 25, 2005, 04:55:11 PM
I'm not sure by your definition which bit you are actually talking about. Shifting accents always helps and so do stops (pause and run). Block chord practice is always helpful CODA is hard!!

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Re: Chopin Scherzo 3
Reply #4 on: January 27, 2005, 02:32:45 PM
Here is a better fingering, which gets rid of your nasty 4 and 5.  Notice that Chopin has written 3 repeated groups of five notes each.  So the groups go over the bar lines.  This is part of the problem.

The fingering is 1 2 3 4 3     1 2 3 4 3     1 2 3 4 3  A good practice is to play the first five notes followed by the next two, so that your are aiming well ahead. ( a bit like jumping over a barrier and landing somewhere.)  Let us know if it works.   :) :D
 

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