Octave glissandi without using thumbnail!

[tim_pianist]

Here's a demonstration by Zimerman, in a lesson.

(see 22:19 - 24:20)

Any thoughts on this method of executing octave glissandi?

[perfect_pitch]

I've never seen it before, and I've had to play the Shrovetide Fair from Petrushka (LH 8ve Glissandi) and Brahms-Paganini variations (RH 8ve glissandi).

I only wish the video was clearer... and that I spoke German by the sounds of it.

[louispodesta]

Here's a demonstration by Zimerman, in a lesson.

(see 22:19 - 24:20)

Any thoughts on this method of executing octave glissandi?

This is wonderful!  However, however!

First, Zimerman (who was taught this by someone else) uses the bottom of his very large hand to effectuate the Glissando.  This works very well for him, but not every pianist has this same hand morphology.

Secondly, my suggestion is to play around with it, either with this piece or the Brahms Paganini Variation.

Finally, for most of the world's pianists (unlike myself) who do not have a perfectly regulated action, this technique may or may not cause you major harm.

Please learn and explore.

As a postscript: this is one of the worst renderings of this great piece I have ever heard.  "Oh, but he is so young, certainly he will grow and mature into it."  Is it not great that can technically master the notes?  And, do not forget he is Asian/Chinese, but then again that makes him perfect (like his God, Lang Lang).   And, you, Mr. Podesta, are a true Xenophobe.

I have heard this garbage all of my adult life.  Enough!  Don't play it (any piece) until you have first mastered the composer's original Epistemology.

Hey:  look at the video and very carefully look into Zimerman's eyes.  The translation of this is:  I am being paid an enormous amount of money for witnessing this foolishness, so I had better produce something credible to earn my fat fee.  And, while I am at it, I will get someone in my Agent's office to post this on the Internet.

Duh!

[beethovenfan01]

Frankly I just do it. Don't know why, but it's not a big problem for me. I just put my hand in an octave shape and drag it. It's actually really fun to pull out at social functions every now and then. And it doesn't even hurt anymore.

Not that I would try that on a piano with super stiff keys, though ...

[perfect_pitch]

I'll admit this:

First, Zimerman (who was taught this by someone else) uses the bottom of his very large hand to effectuate the Glissando.  This works very well for him, but not every pianist has this same hand morphology.

Seems like good advice - not everyone does have the same hand physiology as Zimerman... but then you had to continue on with...

look at the video and very carefully look into Zimerman's eyes.  The translation of this is:  I am being paid an enormous amount of money for witnessing this foolishness, so I had better produce something credible to earn my fat fee.  And, while I am at it, I will get someone in my Agent's office to post this on the Internet.

Wow... that just REEKS of jealousy.

No offense, but there's a reason most pianists over the world know the name Krystian Zimerman...

[louispodesta]

This, above all, is supposed to be a website, wherein people comment on actual facts.

However, in my opinion, this post is nothing more than an attempt by Kristan Zimerman's Agent to promote his Career.

[ronde_des_sylphes]

However, in my opinion, this post is nothing more than an attempt by Kristan Zimerman's Agent to promote his Career.

Possibly the funniest / most fatuous thing I've ever read on here. World-renowned and highly respected pianist's career "needs a boost" so his agent masquerades as a random poster on a site with limited readership for promotional purposes..

[georgey]

Possibly the funniest / most fatuous thing I've ever read on here. World-renowned and highly respected pianist's career "needs a boost" so his agent masquerades as a random poster on a site with limited readership for promotional purposes..

+1

[tenk]

This, above all, is supposed to be a website, wherein people comment on actual facts.

This, coming from you? HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[louispodesta]

The economics of Concert Piano Performance effects everyone.

1)  Martha Argrerich has not played a solo recital in years.

2)  The only reason Christina Ortiz continues to do so is that she is married to the top classical Music Agent in all of Europe.

3)  Therefore, why has the extremely well-known, internationally famous Kristan Zimerman (for the very first time) all of a sudden appeared on this humble website.  And, that is with a teenager who could not get up and play this piece with a major orchestra if his life depended on it.

4)  That is:  assuming he has an Agent, and could even get booked!

Once again, another phony Post by Pianostreet, in my opinion.

[georgey]

Duplicate post.  Please ignore.

[georgey]

This is wonderful!  However, however!

First, Zimerman (who was taught this by someone else) uses the bottom of his very large hand to effectuate the Glissando.  This works very well for him, but not every pianist has this same hand morphology.

Secondly, my suggestion is to play around with it, either with this piece or the Brahms Paganini Variation.

Finally, for most of the world's pianists (unlike myself) who do not have a perfectly regulated action, this technique may or may not cause you major harm.

Please learn and explore.

This sounds like good advice to me.  Thanks.