Sorabji vs Microwave Background Radiation Hiss

[perfect_pitch]

I've seen peas being shelled but have never seen them shutting either up or down.

You know what’s funny? Not you... so shut up.

[ahinton]

You know what’s funny?

What's funny to some is not necesarily so to others.

so shut up.

As I have stated previously, I do not take instructions from you, nor am I under any contractual or moral obligation to do so.

Thank you.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

As I have stated previously, I do not take instructions from you, nor am I under any contractual or moral obligation to do so.

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

You know them all personally, do you? And you have evidence that all of them have asked you to ask this? Perhaps you should produce it in order to try to gain a shred of cred. Anway, I don't know any of them so don't take instructions from them either; if I did, why might they not ask me directly rather than perceiving the need to do so via you?

Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

I have no idea who Mr. T is so don't take instruction from him either, especially when they are unevidenced.

Which "kids" anyway? I have none myself.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

This is a nice microwave...

[thalbergmad]

Let's hope that after the latest round of plugs he buggers off.

[ahinton]

This is a nice microwave...

It is indeed; it looks identical to mine (I don't have a built-in one). It's also quite quiet in operation and certainly free from any background radiation hiss (said he, trying to stay on-topic FWIW)...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Let's hope that after the latest round of plugs

All microwaves need plugs.

he buggers off.

If you refer to me, I am sorry to disappoint you; buggery has never been part of my repertoire and I do not intend to change that now.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

Wow... this is a 1200 watt microwave.

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Wow... this is a 1200 watt microwave.

Ah, well, in that case it's slightly different to mine, which has a maximum power of 1kw; outwardly, however, its appearance is broadly similar.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

Repetition of #402. See reply #403.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

Second repetition of #402.

One might conclude that, as someone once said of Philip Glass, you have run out of a lack of ideas...

One might also conclude that the fact that this thread has already run to more than 400 posts is a remarkable, if mind-numbing, achievement.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

Repetition does nothing to enhance your point, especially when you have no point to make; it merely takes up more of your time.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

You really have run out of a lack of ideas! That said, you would appear to have no issue with pointless time-wasting pursuits, especially given that I don't know who members of that crowd of Mr. T. might be and am therefore in no way beholden to either.

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

Even had the former really asked you and the latter actually expressed the wish that you claim, it is obvious that neither is getting what they want and your now habitual - not to say laughable - repetitions are evidently doing nothing to help in that respect.

[perfect_pitch]

Okay - let's see if we can put an end to this thread. You have a compulsion to remark on every single thing in this forum - and usually shoving Sorabji into it somewhere - despite some threads attempting to talk about anything other than Sorabji (like the other one Thalbergmad started).

If you can see to it NOT to reply to this thread, then surely this thread will fade away into history and we can move on. I have a feeling that won't be the case; maybe I'm wrong... but surely we can let this post be the last one ever?

[ahinton]

Okay - let's see if we can put an end to this thread. You have a compulsion to remark on every single thing in this forum - and usually shoving Sorabji into it somewhere - despite some threads attempting to talk about anything other than Sorabji (like the other one Thalbergmad started).

If you can see to it NOT to reply to this thread, then surely this thread will fade away into history and we can move on. I have a feeling that won't be the case; maybe I'm wrong... but surely we can let this post be the last one ever?

That's not really for you to decide.

As to "shoving" Sorabji into the thread, the first person to do that was Thal, who initiated it and, as Sorabji is in the thread topic, his inclusion in responses is hardly surprising.

I have nothing against it fading away, for reason of which you will be aware and, as you are presumably also aware of my thoughts on it, that is perhaps hardly surprising either.

But in the end it's not for you or for me to impose such strictures upon any other forum member (and I for one have no wish to do that), so let's just wait and see what happens.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

I suspect that there might be some who would like YOU to shut up, since you
a) have so little of value to say
b) have recourse to the words of others
c) repeat yourself because you have, as I noted, run out of a lack of ideas
d) wander frequently from the thread topic and
e) purport to speak for others without either their authority or corroborative evidence.

You might be wise to give that some thought...

[brogers70]

Perhaps you should move this to the "Last Post Wins" thread.

[dogperson]

Perhaps you should move this to the "Last Post Wins" thread.

You’re right; those few continuing this don’t want anyone else to have the last word...

[thalbergmad]

That is true. Damned if I am going to be out Sorabji'd

[ronde_des_sylphes]

This thread is a wonderful piece of modern performance art.
 

[thalbergmad]

It is certainly superior to the mindless note bashing of Sequentia Cyclica.

[ronde_des_sylphes]

A new poll, perhaps?

Sorabji vs the Sorabji vs Microwave Background Radiation Hiss thread?

[thalbergmad]

Hinty would only use it to peddle his wares.

[perfect_pitch]

That is true. Damned if I am going to be out Sorabji'd

Hey - I figured it Alistair was going to continue his Sorabji spiel, I might as well contribute something as worthwhile. Mr T. seemed like a good candidate.

It is certainly superior to the mindless note bashing of Sequentia Cyclica.

Thank you as well... it seems that Alistair always has to have the last word. I figured, if he feels that way - then it's only obvious that I point out that no matter how many times I post the same thing, his compulsion to be the last word for everything must dry up if the same thing is posted. I am no longer reading his posts, but posting the same thing over and over (and happy to keep on doing so in an attempt to bring this to everyones attention).

Perhaps Alistair might put a lid on his ego and stop peddling the sh*t out of Sorabji. We have established that he only does it to promote controversy (given his post history), and that he can't shut up about it (given the fact that he turned a thread about non-Sorabji into a chance to talk about Sorabji).

I would like to clarify that I have read none of his posts in the last 24 hours, and continue to post the same thing because it seems as futile as his attempts to prolong this thread.

[ahinton]

That is true. Damned if I am going to be out Sorabji'd

Oh, don't worry, Thal; I'm as sure that this will not happen as I am that no one would want it to!

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

This thread is a wonderful piece of modern performance art.
 

You reckon that it's even that good?(!)...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

It is certainly superior to the mindless note bashing of Sequentia Cyclica.

Never having heard anyone mindlessly bash the notes of Sequentia Cyclica (I have only ever heard it played by Jonathan Powell), I could not possibly say.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

A new poll, perhaps?

Sorabji vs the Sorabji vs Microwave Background Radiation Hiss thread?

Please God NO!!!

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Hey - I figured it Alistair was going to continue his Sorabji spiel, I might as well contribute something as worthwhile. Mr T. seemed like a good candidate.

For what?

Thank you as well... it seems that Alistair always has to have the last word.

Not at all, although I would not repeatedly post the same thing over and over for effect (whatever, if anything, such effect might or might not be)...

I figured, if he feels that way - then it's only obvious that I point out that no matter how many times I post the same thing, his compulsion to be the last word for everything must dry up if the same thing is posted. I am no longer reading his posts, but posting the same thing over and over (and happy to keep on doing so in an attempt to bring this to everyones attention).

You're as welcome to continue your repetitious posting as I am to express relief that you are not reading my posts.

Perhaps Alistair might put a lid on his ego

What "ego" is that and in what in particular might you believe yourself to encounter its expression?

and stop peddling the sh*t out of Sorabji.

There is no sh*t in Sorabji so I could not do that. Having said that, the problem that I suspect you to have is that you would far rather that no one ever mentions Sorabji anywhere, peddling or otherwise - but that's for you, not for anyone else.

We have established

Again, who are "we"? and how might they have "established" anything?

that he only does it to promote controversy

How do you work that out? Unless you believe that promoting Sorabji or even mentioning him and his work can only be done in order to attract controversy and can only attract controversy, it makes no sense. If you do believe that, however, you might care to explain why you think so and why you believe this to be the case with Sorabji but no other composer; indeed, you arguably owe it to other members to do so.

I would like to clarify that I have read none of his posts in the last 24 hours

Good! As I mentioned, that's a relief.

and continue to post the same thing because it seems as futile as his attempts to prolong this thread.

Comparisons are odious, as the cliché has it and that seems especially apposite here. At least you appreciate the futility of your repetitious posting, which is something.

For the record, I have no desire to see this thread being prolonged, as the premise of its subject speaks for itself in valuelessness (and I am not the only one of its contributors to say so).

I would far rather a sensible discussion of Sorabji and his work on another thread dedicated to that topic by those who dislike his work, those who like it and those who are open to what it might have to offer, without reference to microwave radiation hiss and the like which would have no place in it.

For the record - and for anyone who might still be any doubt - I do not expect everyone to care for Sorabji's music any more than I expect them necessaarily to do so for the music of Brahms, Xenakis, Godowsky, Schönberg, Haydn, Shostakovich, Liszt or anyone else but I do expect that people here on this piano forum might discuss all manner of music intelligently, whether or not they happen to like it; that is surely trhe principal purpose of this forum (with an obvious emphasis on piano repertoire). Is that really asking too much?

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Oh no, he is back.

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Oh no, he is back.

No. Never gone away.

Oh, wait a moment; you mean that perfect_pitch is back? Well, if so, it's with the same pitch that he's plugged like a stuck record...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

Bovine excrement, so to speak...

[perfect_pitch]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

[ahinton]

Alistair - these people:



...have asked me, to ask you...

...to kindly shut the f@#k up. If you could please do so, it would make the world a FAR better place. Do it for the sake of humanity.



Even Mr. T. would like you to shut up.

Off topic.

[klavieronin]

perfect_pitch,

I understand you don't want to hear from ahinton anymore but please consider that other people read this forum as well and believe it or not, some of those people, myself included, might want to read and talk about Sorabji seriously. Spamming the same joke over and over is unlikely to achieve anything, so if you don't have anything constructive to add why not simply ignore these threads?

[ahinton]

perfect_pitch,

I understand you don't want to hear from ahinton anymore but please consider that other people read this forum as well and believe it or not, some of those people, myself included, might want to read and talk about Sorabji seriously. Spamming the same joke over and over is unlikely to achieve anything, so if you don't have anything constructive to add why not simply ignore these threads?

Whilst what you write makes good sense, it occurs to me that, although I may be wrong about this (and stand corrected if so), I suspect that what p_p really doesn't want to hear (or rather read) about is Sorabji and his music.

Had someone commenced a thread on, say, Marc-André Hamelin's 3-CD survey (on Hyperion) of Busoni's piano music and were p_p's attitude to Busoni being on a par with his stance on Sorabji (which might or might not be the case), pretty much the same thing would almost certainly have happened, again regardless of consideration of what other forum members might think or want to hear/read about that subject.

Advice to overlook what one knows one will not want to hear/read about seems so sensible yet, as may be noted, it is by no means always taken...

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Hamelins Busoni is arguably worse than Sorabji.

[ahinton]

Hamelins Busoni is arguably worse than Sorabji.

All that I wondered was how long it would take you!

That said, is your remark here directed towards Hamelin or Busoni?

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

perfect_pitch,

I understand you don't want to hear from ahinton anymore but please consider that other people read this forum as well and believe it or not, some of those people, myself included, might want to read and talk about Sorabji seriously. Spamming the same joke over and over is unlikely to achieve anything, so if you don't have anything constructive to add why not simply ignore these threads?

This all started when Alistair started inserting Sorabji into a thread that was CLEARLY labelled "SORABJI FREE ZONE". It was NOT an invitation to talk about Sorabji, however he clearly interjected and inserted it into the thread anyway.

Given that he can't keep his comments about Sorabji (which he prattles on ALL THE TIME), to threads that are about Sorabji, and given that his intent is genuinely to start flame wars by antagonising other users given the fact that HE knows there are many users who don't like Sorabji...

I feel that if he feels like spamming the other threads where the subject is FAR from Sorabji, I might give him a taste of his medicine.



[I know he's going to claim that the 'SORABJI FREE ZONE' could be interpreted in a way in which people are invited to talk freely about Sorabji; he's WRONG. I know he's going to claim he doesn't antagonise people about Sorabji and flame on about it - again, there have been many a thread in the past he's slipped it in where it wasn't invited. I KNOW he's going to claim he's not a troll, however I would like to point out that he replied to the exact same comment over a dozen times in a bid merely to take the last word.

I will agree to leave this thread alone, if he is willing to leave the 'Sorabji free zone' thread alone. He knows it was a poor attempt to subvert the conversation - much like louis_podesta does with his idiotic video about practicing the 'correct way'.

[ahinton]

This all started when Alistair started inserting Sorabji into a thread that was CLEARLY labelled "SORABJI FREE ZONE". It was NOT an invitation to talk about Sorabji, however he clearly interjected and inserted it into the thread anyway.

And it is evident that you cannot take a joke (see below for the reason why I say this).

Given that he can't keep his comments about Sorabji...to threads that are about Sorabji

I started two such and Thal one more; these are where most of my recent references to Sorabji will be found.

and given that his intent is genuinely to start flame wars by antagonising other users

Wrong. I have no interest in doing that kind of thing and, in any case, just how many users have specifically and unequivocally expressed the view that they have been so "antagonised"? You and one or two others or the majority of users here?

given the fact that HE knows there are many users who don't like Sorabji...

Neither of us knows how many members here do or don't like Sorabji but those statistics, whatever they might be, are not a reason to censor threads by omitting mention of him; he was a prolific composer of piano music, after all and this is a piano forum. Moreover, the fact that someone doesn't like Sorabji this year is not necessarily an indicator that they never will; if it were, it would be an indicator of inflexibility.

I feel that if he feels like spamming the other threads where the subject is FAR from Sorabji, I might give him a taste of his medicine.

I'm doing nothing of the kind and you are not giving anything (nor am I asking you to do so).

[I know he's going to claim that the 'SORABJI FREE ZONE' could be interpreted in a way in which people are invited to talk freely about Sorabji; he's WRONG.

That was the joke.

I know he's going to claim he doesn't antagonise people about Sorabji

See above; I am claiming nothing in either direction about this but I do note the paucity of incontrovertible evidence that a substantial proportion of the membership is being so antagonised.

there have been many a thread in the past he's slipped it in where it wasn't invited.

So you would seek to counsel that threads about, say, Medtner, Rachmaninoff, Busoni, Godowsky or Alkan would be the wrong places even to mention Sorabji despite his having championed and promoted the work of those composers when, in at least three cases, it was insufficiently well known? That, again, would be a form of censorship.

As to "slipping" anything in "where it wasn't invited", members do not invite or disinvite others to comment on or include references to anyone or their work on this forum, so your notion is demonstrably misplaced.

I KNOW he's going to claim he's not a troll

Then your knowledge fails you; I would make no claim one way or the other about that and have no interest in so doing.

however I would like to point out that he replied to the exact same comment over a dozen times in a bid merely to take the last word

No; I did so in a bid to point up the sheer stupidity, irrelevance and lack of veracity of both the content and its repetition - no more, no less.

I will agree to leave this thread alone, if he is willing to leave the 'Sorabji free zone' thread alone.

I am pleased to hear it and I have no problem with not contributing to the "Sorabji free zone thread" except for one thing; if that thread is to continue at all, I would be as entitled as you or any other member to contribute to it provided that Sorabji is not mentioned therein.

a poor attempt to subvert the conversation

Oh, come now! What "conversation" was there to subvert in that thread in the first place? How serious might you suppose the intent was in initiating it?

Frankly, I'd be perfectly happy to see both that thread and this one closed to further posting but that's not up to me and, unlike some people, I have no desire to seek to impose my will on other members...

much like louis_podesta does with his idiotic video about practicing the 'correct way'.

I know nothing about that member or his posts on anything, so cannot comment.

Best,

Alistair

[perfect_pitch]

I am pleased to hear it and I have no problem with not contributing to the "Sorabji free zone thread"

Glad we can come to an agreement. I bid you adieu...