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Offline itai.street

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MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
« on: October 27, 2020, 09:14:00 PM »
Hi everyone, I'm happy to announce Midiator is now compatible with all computers!

Just connect your keyboard to your computer and go to:

www.midiator.app

I'm Itai from Israel, and For those who are new to MIDIator, MIDIator is a an app and a software that is designed to get 100% quality and accurance for piano lessons online.

What is MIDI?
- MIDI is a computer language for sending musical events, such as note on/off, velocity(dynamics), sustain and many more. When students' plays their keys, MIDIator streams it to the teacher's keyboard, and the keyboard plays it!
Sounds weird right? but try to imagine those keyboards from movies that plays on its own, so that is kinda similar.
One plays on his piano, and the other hears it from his piano.
That is why you get the best quality and you you can hear every detail, from piano to forte, staccato/legato, sustain etc..

Using MIDIator doesn't interfere with you video call, it's on the background, all you have to do is to go to the website(if you use a laptop) or download the app from google play here (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=il.co.mitug.midichat)(if you use a phone). An iphone version will be published very soon.

Requirements :
- If you use a laptop, MIDIator supports only Chrome/Edge browsers.
- A USB cable to connect your keys to your computer(a USB type B to normal USB)
- If you use the phone app, you will need an adapter to the cable above so it can fit you phone.


Other great features:
- A metronome - the teacher can activate a metronome that syncs with the student's performance, or the teacher's performance.
- Latency - Since MIDIator streams faster than video calls you can use the latency slider so the performance match what you see on screen.
- Multi participants classes - One of MIDIators best features is the ability to have group classes. You can add many participants to the class, just tap the share button and share your lesson via whatsapp/eMail etc..

MIDIator is free of charge for limited time, hope you enjoy it!

Itai.

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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #1 on: November 03, 2020, 03:18:31 PM »
For this:
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Requirements :
- If you use a laptop, MIDIator supports only Chrome/Edge browsers.
- A USB cable to connect your keys to your computer(a USB type B to normal USB)
- If you use the phone app, you will need an adapter to the cable above so it can fit you phone.
Why, when I asked in the other forum, didn't you give this information?  You merely said that once it's installed it basically plays itself - which well yeah, but the hard part is the setup if you are brand new to this.  So here's the info after all.

I see it's been up for a while, with no responses.  One reason may be that people see it as an advert, which in a way it is - but isn't, since for the time being it's free.  The other thing is that you have sort of used a "geek to geek" language.  A lot of people teaching piano are not that computer literate, or Internet literate.

In simpler terms I see this:

When a teacher and student get together on Zoom, the sound gets transmitted as rather "heavy" data.  Zoom and the rest also have algorithms for "fixing" the sound in a way that is optimum for speech.  The sound of a piano (or singing) can actually be seen as "ambient noise" that has to be suppressed.  There are workarounds: things to click to stop this from happening.  It helps.  Somewhat.  Meanwhile Zoom has gone downhill since it had a sudden massive increase in users.

Ergo: We've got a problem.  Piano sound gets distorted or cut off or is unreliable going through the Ether world.  Not for everyone: and not for every student of a given teacher.  Not the same on different days.

So this system here: the data that a student's digital piano sends to its innards when you press a key (and pedal), for it to produce a sound ---- that data gets sent to the teacher's piano, and it plays.  The data is not "heavy", and it does not get "interpreted" or "distorted" along the way.  So you get to hear what got played.  This should solve just about every problem we're encountering right now.

The other thing is "latency".  If your student plays a note, and you hear that note a second later - or you hear the note before you see his hand move - that's awful.  One can't teach or learn that way.  So apparently there's this slider where you can make the two line-up so that they're coming at you at the same time.

Metronome?  I don't think people care about that too much.  Just being able to hear what is being played, the way it really is. For crying out loud - a couple of weeks ago I heard a phantom note that wasn't there, because Zoom had transported it up 3 octaves in its "interpretation"!

The other thing is: Teachers are probably rightfully skittish.  They'd have to get every student to learn to use this, when many of them may just be getting used to on-line teaching.

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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #2 on: November 03, 2020, 06:43:44 PM »
My teacher uses Firefox and dislikes Chrome.  We both hate Edge.  I suppose you can't get around that part?

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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #3 on: November 27, 2020, 03:24:35 PM »
For this:Why, when I asked in the other forum, didn't you give this information?

Because the author of this unverified malware has an arrangement with the owner of the board.

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I see it's been up for a while, with no responses.  One reason may be that people see it as an advert, which in a way it is - but isn't, since for the time being it's free.

Nothing is free.  If I cannot examine the code, and if the code is not adequately commented and cannot be compiled with debug and valgrind flags, it's useless to me, in the category of something you'd see advertised on late night television or some dodgy ad on various webpages.

I don't see a link to a GitHub page.

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A lot of people teaching piano are not that computer literate, or Internet literate.

That might be true, but there exist literate people.
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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #4 on: November 27, 2020, 05:34:06 PM »
Because the "author" of this unverified malware...
How did you determine that it is malware?

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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #5 on: November 28, 2020, 02:44:50 AM »
How did you determine that it is malware?

It probably is not, but it's a pretty safe assumption.

In addition, there are many mistakes that can be made in writing code that have unintended consequences, however innocent.

And why should one take a spammer's word at face value?  It's not as though this board has not seen quite enough very suspicious efforts to extract value from here, especially recently.
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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #6 on: November 28, 2020, 10:25:44 AM »
It probably is not, but it's a pretty safe assumption.
So you wrote it as though a fact, without knowing it to be so.  I downloaded it two weeks ago, and got no malware warning nor did any show up.    You also stated that the OP made an arrangement with the owner.  I'd assume that the owner told you that, or announced it to us?  Or that is also a guess.

The video that was here yesterday is gone.  I wish I had grabbed the URL while it was still available.  There was a very nasty response telling the OP to kill himself, with fire.  I flagged the response - that should not have caused the video to be removed.

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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #7 on: November 28, 2020, 08:46:17 PM »
So you wrote it as though a fact, without knowing it to be so.  I downloaded it two weeks ago, and got no malware warning nor did any show up.    You also stated that the OP made an arrangement with the owner.  I'd assume that the owner told you that, or announced it to us?  Or that is also a guess.

The video that was here yesterday is gone.  I wish I had grabbed the URL while it was still available.  There was a very nasty response telling the OP to kill himself, with fire.  I flagged the response - that should not have caused the video to be removed.


I think the YouTube video you were looking for is on the ‘other’ forum; of course, can’t be sure since this one disappeared

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Re: MIDIator App -Now available for Laptops/PC/Macs
«Reply #8 on: November 28, 2020, 11:49:36 PM »
I think the YouTube video you were looking for is on the ‘other’ forum; of course, can’t be sure since this one disappeared
Thanks, dogperson.

Well, this thing got the ball rolling and I'm looking at various alternatives (there are other, established, apps that do the same thing) with someone who knows more than I do and getting that organized.  It would be good to have some alternatives for that one element that doesn't go that well in "Zoom" lessons.