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Offline n0tagreatusername

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How (un)comfortable is this to play?
« on: December 22, 2020, 05:53:59 PM »
Hi all, I'm wondering if you could tell me how possible/comfortable this is to play? Particularly the 2nd & 3rd chords.

I can reach the notes myself on the piano but my ring/index finger end up at the top of the piano key which makes it hard to actually press down. Just wondering whether a good pianist would have issues with those chords.

Quarter note = 50bpm

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #1 on: December 22, 2020, 06:53:35 PM »
Rather depends on the morphology and size of your hands as well as the action of your instrument. I take your point about the ring finger on the 2nd chord. I don't see anyway around this, but it wouldn't prove problematic to a good pianist. A weak 4th finger is more likely to hinder those who haven't got a few years practise under their belts.

It gave me no problems and I am pretty crap.

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #2 on: December 22, 2020, 08:25:55 PM »
Those second and third chords are pretty gnarly.

The only way I can figure out how play them is almost "diving" from above, like into a swimming pool, with the tips of my fingers "landing" pretty close to the fallboard.

I wouldn't be able to play these at a fast tempo, or at least not easily.

The short answer is:  for me, it's rather uncomfortable.  But I probably wouldn't be enraged enough to take a black felt pen and scribble vulgarities across the notes on the score.

However, I'm not any great pianist:  sort of middle-of-the-pack, at best.  Good but limited in some ways.

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #3 on: December 23, 2020, 12:30:09 AM »
Where the heck did you get that score from??? PLEASE tell me it was NOT musescore...



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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #4 on: December 23, 2020, 09:52:06 AM »
I personally don't find the chords uncomfortable. As thalbergmad says, it depends a lot on your hand morphology.

If you can reach the notes, maybe try and play it with a slight clenching motion (idk how else to describe it). Your wrist goes slightly higher and forward while playing it, without any tension in the hand. Imagine the cartwheel that you would do with your hand if you wanted to play C#-G#-C#-G# in quick succession.

But it will only be really effortless if you have the hand size and structure for it. In addition to having reasonably large hands, you will need to be able to have enough space between the ring finger and pinky, especially in the left hand for the second chord.

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #5 on: December 23, 2020, 10:28:16 AM »
Where the heck did you get that score from??? PLEASE tell me it was NOT musescore...



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It is indeed MuseScore but the music is something I'm writing. I can't actually tell what abhors you more... the fact that I notated this using MuseScore or the music itself haha

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #6 on: December 23, 2020, 10:29:49 AM »
Rather depends on the morphology and size of your hands as well as the action of your instrument. I take your point about the ring finger on the 2nd chord. I don't see anyway around this, but it wouldn't prove problematic to a good pianist. A weak 4th finger is more likely to hinder those who haven't got a few years practise under their belts.

It gave me no problems and I am pretty crap.

Thal

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #7 on: December 23, 2020, 10:30:31 AM »
I don't mind people writing music, it's just Musescore has a reputation of people putting up incredibly dodgy arrangements of other peoples music. I once saw a piece of music with like 15 leger lines in treble clef.

It's not the music itself. I just hate Musescore because you'll get students who want to play pieces which they get for free, usually in the wrong time signature and not starting on the right beat or with the right key signature either.

As a teacher, it's a pain in my arse.

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #8 on: December 23, 2020, 10:31:59 AM »
Those second and third chords are pretty gnarly.

The only way I can figure out how play them is almost "diving" from above, like into a swimming pool, with the tips of my fingers "landing" pretty close to the fallboard.

I wouldn't be able to play these at a fast tempo, or at least not easily.

The short answer is:  for me, it's rather uncomfortable.  But I probably wouldn't be enraged enough to take a black felt pen and scribble vulgarities across the notes on the score.

However, I'm not any great pianist:  sort of middle-of-the-pack, at best.  Good but limited in some ways.

Good to know. The tempo is quite slow (Quarter note = 50bpm) so it should be ok. In all honesty, I'd be willing to drop the G in the LH and the G# in the RH if it came to it

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #9 on: December 23, 2020, 10:33:08 AM »
I personally don't find the chords uncomfortable. As thalbergmad says, it depends a lot on your hand morphology.

If you can reach the notes, maybe try and play it with a slight clenching motion (idk how else to describe it). Your wrist goes slightly higher and forward while playing it, without any tension in the hand. Imagine the cartwheel that you would do with your hand if you wanted to play C#-G#-C#-G# in quick succession.

But it will only be really effortless if you have the hand size and structure for it. In addition to having reasonably large hands, you will need to be able to have enough space between the ring finger and pinky, especially in the left hand for the second chord.

Thanks :)

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #10 on: December 23, 2020, 10:34:44 AM »
I don't mind people writing music, it's just Musescore has a reputation of people putting up incredibly dodgy arrangements of other peoples music. I once saw a piece of music with like 15 leger lines in treble clef.

It's not the music itself. I just hate Musescore because you'll get students who want to play pieces which they get for free, usually in the wrong time signature and not starting on the right beat or with the right key signature either.

As a teacher, it's a pain in my arse.

Ah yes I've come across those unplayable arrangements before... the best ones are disco tunes like the Bee Gees haha

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Re: How (un)comfortable is this to play?
«Reply #11 on: January 17, 2021, 09:17:22 PM »
It depends on how big hands you have! I know some pianists who wouldn't be able to reach some of those chords, who would have to leave some of the notes out to play it. I have rather average hands but I can manage them, even if the largest ones are a bit stretchy!