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My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
« on: June 10, 2021, 07:16:10 PM »
On common occurrences, itís usually the student that quits on the teacher and the lessons altogether. But in this particular instance, itís the teacher that quit on the student.

In my case, if the paid lessons are of poor quality, I have some of the shortest leash, and I am quick to cancel and abort that lesson.

The story goes like this: I have always been looking for piano accompaniment lessons/courses/resources since 2008. This has alway been a search that leads to frustration.

I began playing the piano when I was in college. My prime reason for learning the piano was to become a piano accompanist. However, I was always relegated to Royal Conservatory Piano teachers, that only prepares you for a graded ABRSM diploma and nothing beyond that. I personally hated this system and when I had the opportunity to leave the Conservatory system, I got out in a hurry.

Long story short, I eventually found a jazz piano teacher in Toronto. For confidential purposes, I will only address the following people that I mention by their first name only. Amanda gave me the tools that I needed to become a jazz pianist. However, the only problem with this teacher is that she is not good at teaching accompaniment. So my search continues.

For a moment in 2019, I had piano accompaniment lessons with my music pastor, who is an accomplished keyboardist that plays by ear. These lessons were perfect for me. We are like-minded people and we have the same vision of what piano accompanying is supposed to be. Unfortunately, in 2020, COVID-19 kicked in and the lessons were suspended. During this time, I did not think online lessons were possible and I never even heard of Zoom. But it was too late, as most of our church activities were done online and the pastor had no more time to teach me. This was a big blow to my piano accompanying journey.

2021 was the time that I fully realized that online lessons from distant places are possible. Long story short, I fancied myself some musical theater piano accompanying lessons with a piano teacher from the UK named James. The lessons delivered and what he taught me definitely revolutionized my piano accompanying skills.


Just when I was thinking that I finally found the right person for piano accompaniment and that my real piano accompaniment training would finally be on its way; then all of a sudden, he sent me an email that he is not available for lessons for the next 5 weeks, because he has a gig.

I waited eagerly for the next 5 weeks and when it was close to May 25th for the next lesson, I sent a harmless email requesting that the accompaniment patterns for the upcoming lesson be notated and sent to me by email. Then all of a sudden, he said that he is slow at notating rhythms, and he said that I am not the perfect person for you, I donít want to waste your time and money. I replied to that deadly email and he never responded ever since.

This was one instance where the person has all the intangibles to teach piano accompaniment and I totally like the lessons and he quit on me all because he doesnít know how to notate.

The following weeks, I scrambled to look for a similar teacher and they either did not respond or they told me that their workload is full and theyíre not available for lessons.

Simultaneously at this time, I learned a concept called Matthew Effect. I learned from Matthew Effect that to those who have, more will be given, and they will have abundance. But to those who don't have even what they have will be taken away from them. When it comes to piano accompaniment, I am on the wrong side of the Matthew Effect.


So 2021 is just another failed year for piano accompaniment. There is still a glimmer of hope for me. I can either sign up for Playground Sessions and Flowkey and learn from their accompaniment courses or if this fake pandemic will be officially over, I can reunite once again with my pastor.

But on the flipside, at the time of this writing, in 2021, I was able to find a Lead Guitar Improvisation teacher that lives in Manhattan named Rob. And this high quality lesson checked a lot of boxes with my deficiencies with shred music and metal guitar improvisation. I can now say that my technique is more refined and I am on my way to become the next Guthrie Govan, Paul Gilbert, Ywngie Malmsteen, etc. Discussing the Matthew Effect, it seemed like the gods have blessed me more with guitar and ear training and pooh-pooh me with Piano Accompanying. This screams that I should just focus only on guitar and ear training and not be a jack-of-all-trades.

Sorry for the long explanation, but I have to do this so no one asks me additional questions. But I am open to answer additional questions on this sad topic.

Feel free to leave your thoughts and comments. I haven't developed a proper narrative on this topic.

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #1 on: June 10, 2021, 09:12:00 PM »
What the heck is a fake pandemic?

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«Reply #2 on: June 10, 2021, 09:42:30 PM »
What the heck is a fake pandemic?


You know, the fake pandemic, that has pretend killed 3,785,000.  There are some that believe it is a hoax until it hits them, their family or friends.

Come to think of it, Jasonís post may be a hoax

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #3 on: June 10, 2021, 10:12:25 PM »
I don't think the post is a hoax. Sorry to say it, but the person looks deluded.

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«Reply #4 on: June 10, 2021, 10:41:47 PM »


You know, the fake pandemic, that has pretend killed 3,785,000.  There are some that believe it is a hoax until it hits them, their family or friends.

Come to think of it, Jasonís post may be a hoax

Let me put it this way: For more than a year now: I don't wear a mask unless I'm forced to. I don't social distance. I barely wash my hands, only when I'm about to eat. I'm not vaccinated. I lived life as if it's still 2019. So if this is a killer virus - I would have died a long time ago.

But in fact...

This whole Covid thing reminds me of the Children's story - The Emperor's new clothes - where the empereor really believes he's wearing fine apparel when in actuality he's naked. The same thing with the rest of the brain dead population, where they believe the fake news telling them that there is a virus that came from a snake and then someone in Wuhan ate the snake and caught the virus and this virus somehow spread all over the world and then mutated into variants - yeah only a brain dead dummy believes in that!

And no, I'm not deluded, I'm a person of a right frame of mind. What is the point of social distancing, masks, and lockdown - there is none. It's about control and economic destruction.

And this post is not a hoax. This is based on my real life experience. Why would I bother making a fake life story when I originally wanted to discuss this rare issue of student/teacher relationship in music education, where the piano teacher just quit on me. Student/teacher relationship is what I originally wanted to discuss, not whether I'm deluded or not.

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«Reply #5 on: June 10, 2021, 10:52:56 PM »
Let me put it this way: For more than a year now: I don't wear a mask unless I'm forced to. I don't social distance. I barely wash my hands, only when I'm about to eat. I'm not vaccinated. I lived life as if it's still 2019. So if this is a killer virus - I would have died a long time ago.

But in fact...

This whole Covid thing reminds me of the Children's story - The Emperor's new clothes - where the empereor really believes he's wearing fine apparel when in actuality he's naked. The same thing with the rest of the brain dead population, where they believe the fake news telling them that there is a virus that came from a snake and then someone in Wuhan ate the snake and caught the virus and this virus somehow spread all over the world and then mutated into variants - yeah only a brain dead dummy believes in that!

And no, I'm not deluded, I'm a person of a right frame of mind. What is the point of social distancing, masks, and lockdown - there is none. It's about control and economic destruction.

And this post is not a hoax. This is based on my real life experience. Why would I bother making a fake life story when I originally wanted to discuss this rare issue of student/teacher relationship in music education, where the piano teacher just quit on me. Student/teacher relationship is what I originally wanted to discuss, not whether I'm deluded or not.

All right, I'll bite. There are people in my vicinity who have died from covid. One of my friends is a nurse, and has told me horrible stories. He is pretty damn livid at people who don't socially distance and don't wear a mask because so much suffering can be prevented through these small sacrifices. I myself was terribly ill for several weeks from some mystery respiratory illness at the start of the pandemic, and I'm usually a pretty healthy guy who's only sick for a couple of days if I get something. Just because you have not experienced this does not mean it is not real. Maybe you have been lucky and not been infected or maybe your immune system can handle the virus. This is not a secret that has been kept from anyone that some people are asymptomatic. Social distancing and masks are for protecting those who don't handle the virus well, those who die from it, and for preventing hospitals from getting overwhelmed by Corona patients when they also need to treat cancer and stuff.

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«Reply #6 on: June 10, 2021, 11:15:08 PM »
All right, I'll bite. There are people in my vicinity who have died from covid. One of my friends is a nurse, and has told me horrible stories. He is pretty damn livid at people who don't socially distance and don't wear a mask because so much suffering can be prevented through these small sacrifices. I myself was terribly ill for several weeks from some mystery respiratory illness at the start of the pandemic, and I'm usually a pretty healthy guy who's only sick for a couple of days if I get something. Just because you have not experienced this does not mean it is not real. Maybe you have been lucky and not been infected or maybe your immune system can handle the virus. This is not a secret that has been kept from anyone that some people are asymptomatic. Social distancing and masks are for protecting those who don't handle the virus well, those who die from it, and for preventing hospitals from getting overwhelmed by Corona patients when they also need to treat cancer and stuff.

My original post about my piano teacher has now turned into a COVID-19 debate post.

Thread: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me - (5 Comments)

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Comments about Corona: 5

This is ridiculous. And now I appear like a troll. >:(

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #7 on: June 10, 2021, 11:31:18 PM »
Jason
If you didnít want comments about the pandemic, you shouldnít have called it fake. You invited the conversation.

If you wanted feedback about your piano teacher, you should have thought better than labeling those that believe Covid is real as Ďbrain deadí. 

Iím one of the brain-dead, so any comments I would make about your teacher could not remotely be useful to you.

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«Reply #8 on: June 11, 2021, 12:04:36 AM »
The sad part is, Jason, that something like 5-10% of people who catch the virus experience little to no symptoms. This is how it managed to spread so far and so quickly. You could well have had the virus, had no symptoms, but then went on to spread it to others who experienced very sever symptoms or even died. And you would never know it. Just think about that. This is why you should be wearing a mask. It's not to protect yourself, it's to protect those around you.

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #9 on: June 11, 2021, 02:01:45 AM »
If someone quits on you it can be for many reasons you don't know about, it is not necessarily something that you caused.

Accompaniment can either be from written music or improvised. If it is improv based you have no choice but to jam/practice with other people, studying with a teacher really isn't going to be the best path. At the moment it may be difficult to get together with a decent group and jam with them but that is what you are going to have to do.

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«Reply #10 on: June 11, 2021, 01:12:23 PM »
If someone quits on you it can be for many reasons you don't know about, it is not necessarily something that you caused.

Accompaniment can either be from written music or improvised. If it is improv based you have no choice but to jam/practice with other people, studying with a teacher really isn't going to be the best path. At the moment it may be difficult to get together with a decent group and jam with them but that is what you are going to have to do.

Wow! A first post finally in sync with the original topic - yaay!

Well, If you read my initial post, I am currently taking jazz piano lessons with Amanda. It's not like I had nothing. Amanda gave me a solid foundation with chord formation and chord voicings. So I know the voicings that the professionals use. Amanda could have easily been my only piano teacher, but the problem with her is that she is not good at teaching accompaniment, so I look elsewhere.

The only missing element in me is to figure out how to make the chords that I already know, by adding rhythm, or breaking up the harmonies to the block chords, etc.

You actually have a good suggestion that I should be jamming with other people. Fortunately, there are some software and apps that replaces "jamming with other people" all into a computer instead. I know band-in-a-box and toontrack does this. If there are software and apps that I don't know about. Let me know.

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«Reply #11 on: June 11, 2021, 02:50:19 PM »
The only missing element in me is to figure out how to make the chords that I already know, by adding rhythm, or breaking up the harmonies to the block chords, etc.

You actually have a good suggestion that I should be jamming with other people.

The first part can be acquired by transcribing.  The Bill Evans accompanying Tony Bennett is a good, if somewhat advanced example to work on.  Just Bill and Tony doing standards for the most part.

Another good example for piano accompaniment with a fuller band (p+b+d+g, without vocals, but the principle is the same) are the Wes Montgomery albums *The Incredible Wes Montgomery*, and the live sets with Wynton Kelly on piano. 

There are books, but I don't think they're worth the paper they're printed on, generally, so I won't mention them.  But, if you ignore everything Mark Levine has to say about modes and linear improvisation, his The Jazz Piano Book has good stuff about block chords, drop-2 voicings.  So, tear out about half the pages, and you're left with some good material about chord voicings and substitutions.

The second part is, after you're vaccinated, to start developing some contacts locally among similarly reasonable people and just play.

There's not really any substitute in using backing tracks, and I don't think the latency over Zoom or similar gives a uniformly excellent result.

But, if nothing else, you can use the Jamey Aebersold sets of backing tracks, or even Band-in-a-Box, but I think the Aebersolds are better.  The Aebersolds are recorded with top, name musicians, typically, with piano, bass, drums, and you just pan hard left or right (I forgot which) to omit the piano 'comping.  Or you can record your own basslines, and use those.

You should acquire at least one of the Real Books:  the original (now legally published by Hal Leonard) or the Chuck Sher so you'll be on the same "page" as people you're likely to play with.  Wouldn't be a bad idea to start with maybe a dozen common jazz tunes with common vocalese, or regular standards to have under your belt, memorized, changes+melody, so you don't have to stare at "The Book" all the time. 

And then there's the other problem, that IME vocalists like to call tunes in "their" key, which may be some strange key, so you might want to add transposing on the fly to your bag of tricks.  But there are many standards and jazz standards that even without vocals are commonly played in, say, two different keys.  Like "It Could Happen To You" is either F or Eb....so it's not a bad idea to get started on that from the beginning.
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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #12 on: June 11, 2021, 11:06:19 PM »
My original post about my piano teacher has now turned into a COVID-19 debate post.

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This is ridiculous. And now I appear like a troll. >:(

This looks more like you deflecting and changing the subject because you, in your heart of hearts, know that people are dying from the virus and that you have no reasonable way to argue against what I and many other people are telling you. If the choice is between you being wrong or billions of people being brain-dead and millions of people dying and thousands of hospital workers being traumatized is a hoax, then I'm sorry to say, but you need to at least consider if you are wrong.

In almost every pandemic throughout history there have been people who have claimed it's all a hoax. It seems like a defense mechanism that some people retreat to because pandemics are damn scary.

And this pandemic is damn scary. But please consider that your choices may make people ill or even kill them.

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«Reply #13 on: June 11, 2021, 11:43:24 PM »
This looks more like you deflecting and changing the subject because you, in your heart of hearts, know that people are dying from the virus and that you have no reasonable way to argue against what I and many other people are telling you. If the choice is between you being wrong or billions of people being brain-dead and millions of people dying and thousands of hospital workers being traumatized is a hoax, then I'm sorry to say, but you need to at least consider if you are wrong.

In almost every pandemic throughout history there have been people who have claimed it's all a hoax. It seems like a defense mechanism that some people retreat to because pandemics are damn scary.

And this pandemic is damn scary. But please consider that your choices may make people ill or even kill them.

Very well said.  And it is something that needs to be said.

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«Reply #14 on: June 12, 2021, 12:04:58 AM »
Student/teacher relationship is what I originally wanted to discuss, not whether I'm deluded or not.

Yeah, but when you called most of the population, erm... what was it you said?

brain dead population

...and labelling COVID as a:

if this fake pandemic will be officially over

...then you lost that right. 3.8 MILLION people have died from it. To put it in numbers, that's like 15% of the population of Australia. That's more than 1% of all Americans (Imagine knowing 95 people, and knowing one of them died from COVID.)

Maybe when you treat others with a little more respect and wake up, you'll get a more positive reaction.

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«Reply #15 on: June 12, 2021, 12:07:02 AM »
Haven't you people ever heard of DNFTT?

I just posted because I'm awesome and possess infallible knowledge, but the OP is obviously either a million-thetan-level conspiracy theorist or a troll.

Meh, Chick Corea was a Scientologist too, but he could still play piano.

Besides, the OP plays guitar:  that's been the root cause of much drooling and illiteracy for decades.  ;D
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«Reply #16 on: June 12, 2021, 01:42:55 AM »
Oh gosh people really getting caught up over someone writing one word fake? Now perhaps you understand what it is like when others like myself want to be more accurate on certain issues, yet many of you cry that I am arguing and being mean... Stop being mean people!!! lolll!!!!!!
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«Reply #17 on: June 12, 2021, 01:47:07 AM »
Now perhaps you understand what it is like when others like myself want to be more accurate on certain issues, yet many of you cry that I am arguing and being mean...

I've never bitched about you being mean... you or J_Tour. Sometimes the truth hurts, but it has to be said.

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«Reply #18 on: June 12, 2021, 01:48:10 AM »
Nah not you pp. I don't think it's mean it's totally fine, some though should realize what they are doing right now is something they complain about when I do similar.
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«Reply #19 on: June 12, 2021, 03:19:06 AM »
Nah not you pp, nor that master of idiom and wisdom, j_tour.

FTFY.

So, it's obvious what the OP is.

Does anyone actually have any information on how to learn to be an accompanist, without having earned the right to be in close proximity with others by accepting various noxious vaccines against a fake virus?

There's room for a technical discussion here, and it doesn't have to involve the OP at all.  It is an interesting topic, after all, accompaniment of vocalists.  In both classical Lieder and in popular styles.
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«Reply #20 on: June 13, 2021, 09:57:06 PM »
I havenít been on Piano Street for a few days. I thought this post was already resolved when I forgot the name and Iím on my phone right now, told me that I should focus on jamming with other people or jam track software to build my accompaniment skills. Then all of a sudden more comments came out about the fake COVID-19 virus that doesnít exist and that itís killing a few people came out.

In my introductory post I mentioned Coronavirus with the phrase ďfake pandemicĒ Well fake pandemic is only 2 words from a lengthy post that was obviously taking about something else.

But I will play with the game of these brain dead folks in here and talk about COVID-19 for the rest of way.

3 Million People dying within a single year IS COMPLETELY NORMAL! It happens year after year. There were actually more people that died in 2018 compared to 2020. And the rate of death figures in 2019 is higher than 2020. People dying of the normal diseases like flu and respiratory diseases have massively plummeted in 2020. This is because people dying of flu or someone falling in the stairs have been redesignated COVID-19 in their death certificates.

And for traumatized nurses. Instead of seeing a stampede of virus patients, The war zone hospitals were nearly empty during the lockdown. Instead of seeing patients and medical staff on their knees, in actuality, the medical staff were sitting around with nothing to do.

In actuality, the nurses during the lockdown, were either strumming their fingers, being laid off, or making a long stream of dancing videos that appeared on YouTube featuring doctors and nurses prancing around empty hospitals. They donít seem to have no problem standing inches from each other or closer despite social distancing rules imposed on everyone else and stupid rules that everybody universally ignores.

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«Reply #21 on: June 13, 2021, 10:25:42 PM »


That was for calling us 'Brain Dead Folks'...

You ain't going to get any help from me... ever again.

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«Reply #22 on: June 14, 2021, 01:49:05 AM »
I really didn't want to take the bait but these spurious claims can't go unchallenged.



Claim:

It happens year after year. There were actually more people that died in 2018 compared to 2020. And the rate of death figures in 2019 is higher than 2020.

Fact check:

source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm



Claim:

People dying of the normal diseases like flu and respiratory diseases have massively plummeted in 2020. This is because people dying of flu or someone falling in the stairs have been redesignated COVID-19 in their death certificates.

Fact check:

Sources in the video description.



Claim:

And for traumatized nurses. Instead of seeing a stampede of virus patients, The war zone hospitals were nearly empty during the lockdown. Instead of seeing patients and medical staff on their knees, in actuality, the medical staff were sitting around with nothing to do.

Fact check:

Sources in the video description.

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«Reply #23 on: June 14, 2021, 04:37:45 AM »
Thanks Klaverionin
The sad news that Jason will not do any independent research to check if his conspiracy theories are accurate.  He will believe in the hoax propaganda until he, his family or friends become infected.  Since he takes no precautions including barely washing his hands, he has probably been an asymptotic Carrier,  blithely infecting others.

And yes, he loves to troll this forumó always has.

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«Reply #24 on: June 14, 2021, 03:25:06 PM »
 ;D

Did you notice that videos on YouTube that supports the mainstream narrative of COVID-19 gets the traffic of a hundred thousand views, while the videos on YouTube that challenge the official narrative of COVID-19 are deleted and their account suspended for ďmisinformation.Ē This is to ensure to put in the perceptions and subconscious of the brain dead masses that their are scary germs around and that we have to specifically shut down small businesses and the economy, get restaurants specifically filing for bankruptcy, in order to stop cooties er- ugh - I mean germs from spreading.

This is how the global population is hoodwinked by the manipulators. Because we acquiesce to stupid and believe everything weíre told.

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«Reply #25 on: June 14, 2021, 03:35:25 PM »
Jason
You are like a broken record that no one wants to hear.  Take it somewhere else.

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«Reply #26 on: June 14, 2021, 10:58:00 PM »
Jason
You are like a broken record that no one wants to hear.  Take it somewhere else.

I thought you people want to have a COVID-19 debate? Iím just following your game. I originally made this post to talk more about the piano teacher to a piano forum. But people like you prompted me talk about Coronavirus and the junk of the sleight of hand virus scare.

And now you want me to take my COVID ideas somewhere else?! Why you wonít you tell that to the rest of the people on this post who were firing on all cylinders after they saw 2 random words to a lengthy post that was clearly talking about something else! ::)

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«Reply #27 on: June 14, 2021, 11:02:58 PM »
You conveniently ignore that I mentioned one of my friends being a nurse who has worked during the pandemic and has shared many horrible things. Obvious troll is obvious.

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«Reply #28 on: June 15, 2021, 01:50:30 AM »
You conveniently ignore that I mentioned one of my friends being a nurse who has worked during the pandemic and has shared many horrible things. Obvious troll is obvious.

Yes, I am highly aware that your nurse friend has an upcoming performance with the show 'Dancing With The Stars!' Because she either got laid off or bored in an empty hospital. Now your nurse friend will reveal hidden talents that lied dormant from years working in a continental shift system. :D

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«Reply #29 on: June 15, 2021, 02:11:40 AM »


My name is Nellie, and I take pride in helping protect the children of my community through active leadership roles in my local church and in the Boy Scouts of America.  Bad word make me sad.

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«Reply #30 on: June 15, 2021, 02:40:27 AM »
During lessons did you share your pandemic-related views?

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #31 on: June 15, 2021, 02:51:37 AM »
During lessons did you share your pandemic-related views?
He probably went in without a mask and sneezed at the teacher ;D ;D ;D

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #32 on: June 15, 2021, 02:57:34 AM »
That was kind of where I was going. If he shared his pandemic views with his teachers, they may have opted to end the relationship rather than listen to his rhetoric. The Manhattan-based guitar teacher probably has some first-person experience with the tragedy of the pandemic.

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«Reply #33 on: June 15, 2021, 03:18:58 AM »
During lessons did you share your pandemic-related views?

No, James and I were mostly talking about the rhapsodic melodic fills that he taught me during this time. Then he taught me a syncopated tango rhythm. Then he taught me a poppy rhythm. And we did all of these with the song Autumn Leaves. Playing Autumn Leaves in different styles. In some parts of the lesson, James' fancy Briticisms would come out and he was wearing a Jack Willis sweater. It was very cool, having lessons with a real British person. I wanted to see more of it, then all of a sudden, he quit on me.

He did asked me of my piano accompaniment background and my musical theatre background at the first part of the lesson. We did talk briefly about Covid that both Canada and UK are in a strict lockdown and we're locked up in our homes during that time.

On a normal day, I don't bring my insider knowledge to people that I just met in real life, that is non-internet. If normal people know the insider knowledge that I have, it will be too much for them. When I first learned this insider knowledge in 2009, I felt literally hopeless. That day in 2009, I learned that happiness, freedom, democracy, justice, and all the "good stuff" on this earth are just delusions and illusions of the manufactured movie we are told is life. They are only figments of our perception, that's all.

This insider knowledge I'm talking about is often referred to as "Conspiracy Theory." Conspiracy Theory is basically a CIA term that discredits people like me who have seen through the B.S.

It's not like I just instantly didn't believe in the pandemic. The build up came by years. In 2009, I learned that Obama is only a puppet and there's an unnamed force that is controlling him. Global Warming is a scam. School is a scam, Education in school is mostly indoctrination. And that the official mainstream narrative of 9/11 was a monumental lie. And that we're living under extreme surveillance technology, which includes, having your social media account monitored. That's why my Facebook is basically dead and mostly inactive, ever since I learned this revelation.


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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #34 on: June 15, 2021, 03:37:29 AM »
I have a feeling that you have been shocked by certain things which are true, and have generalized this to think of everything as a conspiracy. You should apply your own common sense and not take one shocking revelation to mean that every conspiracy theory is true. (Some may be, but not all).

Global warming is a scam -- People are burning huge amounts of carbon. That increases the proportion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Due to the greenhouse effect, increased carbon dioxide means more heat from the sun is trapped. Everything up to this point is fact, don't you agree? After that, it follows logically that the temperature will increase. Measurements show that it has. What's there to doubt?

School is a scam and education is indoctrination: This is kind of true, and I think a lot of people will agree with it anyway. Again, this is not insider knowledge, it has been debated countless times in the mainstream.

Official mainstream narrative about 9/11 - You're probably talking about the Patriot Act and heightened surveillance which was pretty shady. Again, this is well-established and not a conspiracy theory.

Social media, privacy, and surveillance technology: This has been widely known ever since the Snowden leaks. They also do not deny that they have the power to surveil random people, they just downplay it.

The pandemic - There is a new virus strain, what's so unbelievable about that? You can wonder about where exactly the virus came from, but you can literally see it with any sufficiently powerful microscope. You can do any established test to show its presence. You can look at the death toll and media reports. Who do you think all the passerby are on television -- paid actors?

How are you so convinced that the people telling you the conspiracy theories aren't themselves the bad guys?

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #35 on: June 15, 2021, 03:46:54 AM »
Going back over the original postÖ

I waited eagerly for the next 5 weeks and when it was close to May 25th for the next lesson, I sent a harmless email requesting that the accompaniment patterns for the upcoming lesson be notated and sent to me by email. Then all of a sudden, he said that he is slow at notating rhythms, and he said that I am not the perfect person for you, I donít want to waste your time and money. I replied to that deadly email and he never responded ever since.

I wonder if there was something in your email response that turned him off.



Official mainstream narrative about 9/11 - You're probably talking about the Patriot Act and heightened surveillance which was pretty shady. Again, this is well-established and not a conspiracy theory.

I suspect he is talking about the conspiracy theory that 9/11 was an inside job.

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #36 on: June 15, 2021, 12:02:45 PM »
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«Reply #37 on: June 15, 2021, 01:00:34 PM »
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Agreed. For anyone who doesnít trust the government or mainstream media, but relies on conspiracy-theory information sources, no amount of external information will change engrained  beliefs. Change, if it happens, will be if the person chooses to explore the basis for the belief and questioning the validity .  I donít see that happening through this forum.

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«Reply #38 on: June 15, 2021, 01:24:04 PM »
Going back over the original postÖ

I wonder if there was something in your email response that turned him off.



I suspect he is talking about the conspiracy theory that 9/11 was an inside job.

No, not really. That email is still in my inbox. I can send a transcript if you want.

Another additional details in the email: he kind of noticed in me that I'm fond of talking about "patterns" when I describe things related to piano accompaniment. For some reason, he considered this as "breaking the original agreement" from my original inquiry email, because he preps up musicians to become professional piano accompanists.

And in the email, James told me that UK was reopening and he is back doing more gigs that he has limited time for lessons.

And finally, He said that he only sight-reads and does not improvise or do spontaneous stuff, when he did a lot of spontaneous stuff every time he played the piano. Then this was about the part in the email that he told me that I am not the perfect person for you, you should look for someone else, I don't want to waste your time and money.

But like I said there are possible scenarios of how I can get piano accompaniment training after this:

* When this piano learning website called Playground Sessions officially release their brand new accompaniment courses module (fingers crossed sometime in 2021) I will sign up right away and give it a try.

* In the carnage of this event, when I was looking for other teachers, there was a professional piano accompanist named Katherine and she's also from the UK. She did say that she would love to teach me when I told her my situation. She's not able to teach me right now because her workload is full. I will check possibly early next year 2022 if her schedule cleared up and if their is some space in her schedule.

* When everything is back to normal, I can reunite with my pastor once again, learning church style piano accompaniment.

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #39 on: June 15, 2021, 02:01:55 PM »
Dear moderator, I inadvertently hit " logged". Not sure what that does. Ignore if it did something. Sorry, thanks.

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Re: My Piano Teacher Quit On Me!
«Reply #40 on: June 15, 2021, 04:07:16 PM »
My two cents: Covid isnít a fake pandemic and itís obvious youíre completely ignorant that peopleís loved ones actually die from it and itís a real thing. Itís not cool to be arrgoant and completely disregard real life situations and pretend this didnít happen. But... I believe the CCP released it on the world though.

School is a scam, Education in school is mostly indoctrination. And that we're living under extreme surveillance technology, which includes, having your social media account monitored. That's why my Facebook is basically dead and mostly inactive, ever since I learned this revelation.

I agree with this though lol