As long as I have a technique for playing for each etude then I can start learning it.
Greetings!My teacher told me that learning Etudes or Studies doesn't require me to learn any other repertoire before. As long as I have a technique for playing for each etude then I can start learning it.E.G. Chopin’s Etude Op. 10 No. 1 I had to learn the basics of apegio and play it well before I started learning it. Do you think this is enough to get started?I found Rachmaninov’s Etudes-Tableaux Op.33 and Op.39 are more advance than Chopin’s (or not? Maybe I’m wrong) I have no idea about it. I practice classical piano seriously for 6-7 months, so I didn’t learn a lot of repertoire before. In the past, I only practiced JS Bach for my repertoire.How about your opinions? Thanks in advance.
Greetings!My teacher told me that learning Etudes or Studies doesn't require me to learn any other repertoire before. As long as I have a technique for playing for each etude then I can start learning it.E.G. Chopin’s Etude Op. 10 No. 1 I had to learn the basics of arpeggio and play it well before I started learning it. Do you think this is enough to get started?I found Rachmaninov’s Etudes-Tableaux Op.33 and Op.39 are more advance than Chopin’s (or not? Maybe I’m wrong) I have no idea about it. I practice classical piano seriously for 6-7 months, so I didn’t learn a lot of repertoire before. In the past, I only practiced JS Bach for my repertoire.How about your opinions? Thanks in advance.
What is your end goal for the Etudes? If you are playing them for study and technique, as I did, then any of them are approachable with enough slow practice (except maybe Op. 25 No. 11), and they will do wonders for your technique, especially if you have a teacher to guide you. If your goal is to perform them, then first off I recommend you *don't*, because the Chopin Etudes are pretty horrifyingly difficult to pull off in concert (I only know of one student at my school--a doctoral student who has since graduated--who played any Chopin Etudes in concert, and even then it was only one). The Rachmaninoff Etudes are much better concert pieces in that regard, but they don't benefit your technique as much. If you have your heart set on playing one specific etude in concert, then I would recommend you start with one of the easier ones (Op. 10 No. 9, for instance) and work on it slowly, from the ground up. For context, I have played five of them, and the only ones I ever performed in my studio class were the Op. 10 No. 9 and No. 12; I have never had the chutzpah to get Op. 10 No. 1, No. 4, or Op. 25 No. 6 up to concert level.
It makes me happy that you practiced lots of Bach until now. I once heard the myth that Chopin himself was actually working on Bach before playing recitals with his own pieces...Take a look at Alfred Cortot's "Editions de Travail" He discusses the technical aspects of all Etudes and gives specific exercises to all of them. This is probably what you are looking for, since you don't want to practice technique in a vacuum (good mentality) and looking for ways to improve your repertoire with challenging pieces (even better mentality)I played etudes both from Rachmaninov and Chopin, and I don't think one can talk about a very specific order of difficulty at this high level. (Except for obvious ones like Chopin Op. 10 No. 3, but come on, that's also a lot of work before you achieve a musical expression) The most difficult etude will be the one you hate the most. So ask the question like: Which virtuoso etude do I love the most at the moment?I hope this helps
I would like to practice Chopin’s Etudes because I like and I think it's one of the most important piano works. I also want to take the audition exam to the music conservatory in the next 2-4 years.Now I think I shouldn't be in a rush to learn these works. I'm afraid I might be injured because I haven't been able to meet a teacher who can help me about this.
Do you know what repertoire will be required for the audition to music conservatory? I would think Chopin or Rachmaninov etudes are rarely mandatory at that stage.You write that you haven't been able to meet a teacher who can help you, yet you mention a teacher in the original post. Do you find that your current teacher is not capable enough?Of course you can do some work on these etudes and get quite a lot out of it, if you are careful and don't aim to perform them in the near future. For example, just regularly practicing the first C major arpeggio in op 10 no 1 slowly and with a relaxed hand - and an open mind - can teach you a lot about technique.
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Some of the Chopin's Etudes will not take too long to master and also provide good training