Help with finding a keyboard stand

[electricboobs]

There's no way I can seem to use the pedal easily with my current X shaped adjustable framed stand, as the frame impacts my knees. I've been avoiding pedal use as a result of this.

I'm looking for something that can go quite low as you'd be able to do with an adjustable X shaped frame but that doesn't have the X that gets impedes your legs. I was thinking of buying the Roland KS-10Z but I don't think it will go low enough. Its lowest is 64 cm whereas I currently play with the keyboard resting on the stand height of 61 cm. So I might have to buy a new chair for that.

https://www.roland.com/uk/products/ks-10z/

Something like this, but that's adjustable!

https://promusica.ie/roland-kscfp10-stand-for-fp10-digital-piano

Surely such a contraption for me must exist out there somewhere! The only way I can actually play comfortably is if I put my leg through the frame! That's fine but it takes about 10 seconds of intense exercise to get in and out of!

Thank you

[motivation]

I agree with you.  I have a Hercules Z stand like this

https://herculesstands.com/international/products/keyboard/z-stands/

It's great, impressively well designed in every way except that I sort of expected it not to impede my knees / shins, but it does.  If I have it the way around so that the top crosspiece is closest to me, that gets in the way of my knees.  If I turn it around the other way, the lower crosspiece gets in the way of my shins.  That latter "shins" way around seems to be the least worst, and that seems to be the way it's intended to be used from photos online.

The KS-10Z looks about the same in that respect, maybe even a little worse.

Roland KS18Z looks like it might be better because it only has one crosspiece, though that likely makes it a bit wobblier side to side and it might be lower than the top crosspiece on the other Z-stands?  Why does nobody make one just like the Hercules but with the lower crosspiece deleted and replaced by little triangular braces??  They already have tiny braces that they could also delete if they did that.  If that existed I'd buy it right now!

[motivation]

I just tried lowering my Hercules stand and it goes down to about 60.5 cm - pretty much identical to the KS-18Z.  The Hercules has finer vertical adjustment though - the next level up is a mm or two over 62 cm (compared to 67.2 cm on the Roland KS-18Z).

I've also just realized that my Hercules is fine if I slide the keyboard right as far forward as it can go (and move the stand back to compensate), which is a big improvement - not quite perfect but much better!  It looks slightly wrong that way to me because there's a lot of the top of the Z sticking out to the rear of the keyboard, but it works fine.

[electricboobs]

I just tried lowering my Hercules stand and it goes down to about 60.5 cm - pretty much identical to the KS-18Z.  The Hercules has finer vertical adjustment though - the next level up is a mm or two over 62 cm (compared to 67.2 cm on the Roland KS-18Z).

I've also just realized that my Hercules is fine if I slide the keyboard right as far forward as it can go (and move the stand back to compensate), which is a big improvement - not quite perfect but much better!  It looks slightly wrong that way to me because there's a lot of the top of the Z sticking out to the rear of the keyboard, but it works fine.

I went for the K&M 18820 in the end. Happy so far.

[motivation]

Sitting down to play today I realize the Hercules is more unstable side-to-side with the piano all the way to the front.

Thanks for the reference to the K&M one, if I find myself too much annoyed with this one I'll keep it in mind.

[timothy42b]

A couple years back on one of these forums (I don't recall which) someone had a solution.

He bought a small table with adjustable legs.  It looked something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Trademark-Innovations-Aluminum-Adjustable-Portable/dp/B011CK9SAO/ref=asc_df_B011CK9SAO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198073844589&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16219326985438789963&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008605&hvtargid=pla-350495945008&psc=1