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Offline doug

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Chopin grades 7 & 8
on: February 16, 2005, 01:42:43 AM
Hello everyone, I got the following list of Chopin pieces from a previous post ( Thanks Bernhard  ;) ), finally worked throught them all, and was wondering if anyone could supply some recommendations for grades 7 and 8. 
Additionally, if anyone feels that any of Chopin's Waltzes, Scherzos, Etudes, etc. belong within the list that is already supplied, feel free to let me know! 


Grades 4 – 5

1.      Prelude in E minor, op. 28 no. 4
2.      Prelude in A major, op. 28 no. 7
3.      Prelude in C minor, op. 28 no. 20
4.      Mazurka in C major, op. 7 no. 5
5.      Mazurka in F major, op. posth. 68 no. 3
6.      Mazurka in F minor, op. posth. 68 no. 4
7.      Waltz no. 17 in A minor
8.      Waltz no. 18 in Eb major
9.      Cantabile in Bb major
10.      Feuille d’album

Grade 6

11.      Prelude in B minor, op. 28 no.6
12.      Prelude in E major, op. 28 no. 9
13.      Mazurka in Bb major, op. 7 no. 1
14.      Mazurka in A minor, op. 7 no. 2
15.      Mazurka in E minor, op. 17 no. 2
16.      Mazurka in G minor, op. 24 no. 1
17.      Mazurka in C major, op. 24 no. 2
18.      Mazurka in Ab major, op. 24 no. 3
19.      Mazurka in C minor, op. 30 no. 1
20.      Mazurka in B minor, op. 30 no. 2
21.      Mazurka in G# minor, op. 33 no. 1
22.      Mazurka in C major, op. 33 no. 3
23.      Mazurka in F minor, op. 63 no. 2
24.      Mazurka in G minor, op. posth. 67 no. 2
25.      Mazurka in C major, op. posth. 67 no. 3
26.      Mazurka in A minor, op. posth. 67 no. 4
27.      Mazurka in A minor, op. posth. 68 no. 2
28.      Mazurka in G major no. 50
29.      Mazurka in Bb major no. 51
30.      Polonaise in G minor no. 11
31.      Polonaise in Bb major no. 12
32.      Nocturne in C minor, no. 21
33.      Contradanse
34.      Largo in Eb major

I know that threads like this are posted ad nauseum, but I find this information suprisingly difficult to obtain in the type of complete and structured format shown above.  Thanks for bearing with me.
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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 11:27:26 PM
Grade 7:

Mazurka no. 2 in C#m (op. 6 no. 2)
Mazurka no. 3 in E (op. 6 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 4 in Ebm (op. 6 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 7 in Fm (op. 7 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 8 in Ab (op. 7 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 12 in Ab (op. 17 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 13 in Am (op. 17 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 26 in Em (op. 41 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 28 in Ab (op. 41 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 31 in Ab (op. 50 no. 2)
Mazurka no. 41 in C#m (op. 63 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 52 in Am
Mazurka no. 55 in Bb
Mazurka no. 57 in Ab

Waltz No. 6 (Db, Op. 64 no. 1)
Waltz No. 7 (C#m, Op. 64 no. 2)
Waltz No. 8 (Ab, Op. 64 no. 3)
Waltz No. 9 (Ab, Op. Posth. 69 no. 1)
Waltz No. 13 (Db, Op. Posth. 70 no. 3)

Prelude op. 28 No. 2
Prelude op. 28 No. 13
Prelude op. 28 No. 14
Prelude op. 28 No. 15
Prelude op. 28 No. 21

Nocturne no. 2 in Eb (Op. 9 no. 2)
Nocturne no. 6 in Gm (Op. 15 no. 3)
Nocturne  no. 11 in Gm (Op. 37 no. 1)
Nocturne no. 15 in Fm (Op. 55 no. 1)
Nocturne no. 19 in Em (Op. posth, 72 no. 1)
Nocturne no. 20 in C#m

Polonaise no. 13 in Ab

 Nouvelles Etudes no. 2 in Ab

Sonata no. 1 in Cm (op. 4) – 3rd mov. Larghetto.
Soanta no. 2 in Bbm (Op. 35) – 3rd mov. Marche Funebre
Sonata no. 3 in Bm (Op. 58) – 3rd mov. Largo
Variations in E on Bellini’s I Puritani.

Funeral march in Cm (Op. posth. no. 2)

Ecossaise no. 2 in Gm Op. posth 72 no. 3

Fugue in Am

Grade 8

Mazurka no. 1 in F#m (op. 6 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 10 in Bb (op. 17 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 17 in Bbm (op. 24 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 20 in Db (op. 30 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 25 in Bm (op. 33 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 30 in G (op. 50 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 34 in C (op. 56 no. 2)
Mazurka no. 36 in Am (op. 59 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 37 in Ab (op. 59 no. 2)
Mazurka no. 38 in F#m (op. 59 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 39 in B (op. 63 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 42 in G (op.posth. 67 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 46 in C (op. posth. 68 no. 1)
Mazurka no. 53 in Am
Mazurka no. 54 in D
Mazurka no. 56 in C

Waltz No. 1 (Eb, op. 18 )
Waltz No. 4 (F, Op. 34 no. 3)
Waltz No. 16 (Em)
Waltz No. 19 (Eb)

Prelude op. 28 No. 1
Prelude op. 28 No. 3
Prelude op. 28 No. 17

Nocturne no. 1 in Bbm (Op. 9 no. 1)
Nocturne no. 5 in F# (Op. 15 no. 2)
Nocturne no. 8 in Db (Op. 27 no.2)
Nocturne no. 9 in B (Op. 32 no. 1
Nocturne no. 10 in Ab (Op. 32 no. 2)
Nocturne no. 14 in F# (Op. 48 no. 2)

Nouvelle Etude no. 1 in Fm

Etude Op. 10 no. 6
Etude Op. 25 no. 2

Polonaise no. 1 in C#m Op. 26 no. 1
Polonaise no. 4 in Cm Op. 40 no. 2
Polonaise no. 10 in Fm Op. Posth 71 no. 3

Sonata in Cm (Op. 4) 2nd mov. – Menuetto

Andante Spianatto (prelude to Grande Polonaise Brillante op. 22)

Ecossaise no. 1 in D (Op. posth, 72 no. 3)
Ecossaise no. 3 in Db (Op. posth, 72 no. 3)

Just above grade 8

Mazurka no. 21 in C#m (op. 30 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 23 in D (op. 33 no. 2)
Mazurka no. 27 in B (op. 41 no. 2)
Mazurka no. 29 in C#m (op. 41 no. 4)
Mazurka no. 32 in C#m (op. 50 no. 3)
Mazurka no. 33 in B (op. 56 no.1)
Mazurka no. 35 in Cm (op. 56 no. 3)

Waltz No. 2 (Ab, Op. 34 no. 1)
Waltz No. 5 (Ab, Op. 42)
Waltz No. 11 (Gb Op. Posth. 70 no. 1)

Prelude op. 28 No. 8
Prelude op. 28 No. 10
Prelude op. 28 No. 11
Prelude op. 28 No. 22
Prelude op. 28 No. 23

Nocturne No. 4 in F (Op. 15 no. 1)
Nocturne No. 7 in C#m (Op. 27 no. 1)
Nocturne No. 12 in G (Op. 37 no. 2)
Nocturne No. 13 in Cm (Op. 48 no. 1)
Nocturne No. 16 in Eb (Op. 55 no. 2)
Nocturne No. 17 in B (Op. 62 no. 1)
Nocturne No. 18 in E (Op. 62 no. 2)

Etude Op. 10 no.3
Etude Op. 10 no. 9
Etude Op. 10 no. 12

Etude Op. 25 no. 1
Etude Op. 25 no. 7
Etude Op. 25 no. 9

Nouvelle etude no. 3 in Db
Polonaise no. 2 in Ebm Op. 26 no.2
Polonaise no. 3 in A Op. 40 no. 1
Polonaise no. 8 in Dm Op. Posth. No. 1
Polonaise no. 9 in Bb Op. Posth. No. 2
Polonaise no. 15 in Bbm

Impromptu no. 1 in Ab (Op. 29)
Fantaise Impromptu op. posth. 66

Variations on a German National air
Souvenir de Paganini.

 :P

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #2 on: February 17, 2005, 04:19:00 AM
Thanks again Bernhard.  By the way, where do you look to get those ABRSM (or whoever else may list them) grades?

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #3 on: February 17, 2005, 09:27:28 AM
Thanks again Bernhard.  By the way, where do you look to get those ABRSM (or whoever else may list them) grades?

You can always go to the ABRSM site and look for your piece. If it has appeared in any of their past syllabus, it will have the grade.

You can have a look at this thread where I listed books that grade pieces. One of the problems is that each book seems to have its own grading system (ABRSM goes form 1 – 8, but other systems go from 1 to 10 or form 1 – 12 and so on).

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3648.msg32681.html#msg32681
(Books that list and rank the piano repertory)

Finally, my own experience. Usually I can look at the score and pretty much guess the grade (give or take a grade).

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #4 on: February 17, 2005, 09:37:21 AM
Might be nitpicking here, but Doug, your list left out the Grade 6 waltzes.  According to a list from Bernhard (him again ;)):

No. 3 (Am, Op. 34 no. 2)
No. 10 (Bm, Op. Posth. 69 no. 2)
No. 12 (Fm, Op. Posth. 70 no. 2)
No. 14 (Ab)
No. 15 (E)
Mad about Chopin.

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #5 on: February 17, 2005, 02:57:27 PM
No, that's great Chopinisque.  It's exactly the type of information I'm looking for.  Thanks for the help. 

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #6 on: February 17, 2005, 04:23:37 PM
For gradings on Chopin you cant do much better than Eleanor Baillies book : a pianist guide to the repertory Chopin. It gives the pieces their gradings and suggestions for practice and covers virtually every piece for piano he wrote (except concerti) BUY it BUY it NOW ;D

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #7 on: February 18, 2005, 01:36:04 AM
For gradings on Chopin you cant do much better than Eleanor Baillies book : a pianist guide to the repertory Chopin. It gives the pieces their gradings and suggestions for practice and covers virtually every piece for piano he wrote (except concerti) BUY it BUY it NOW ;D

Thanks pianowelsh, that sounds great!  I never heard of that book before, but it sounds like a gem.

Thanks for the help,

-Doug

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #8 on: September 02, 2005, 04:38:18 PM
How about the other chopin etudes?

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #9 on: September 02, 2005, 10:26:13 PM
Way above the grading system
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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #10 on: September 03, 2005, 04:22:04 PM
Way above the grading system

do you answering my question pseudeopianist?
so, do you mean that it is above grade 8?

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #11 on: September 03, 2005, 09:26:13 PM
do you answering my question pseudeopianist?
so, do you mean that it is above grade 8?


Yes
And yes. :)
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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #12 on: September 06, 2005, 11:56:27 AM
I played the C sharp minor prelude for my grade 8 (op 45).
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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #13 on: September 14, 2005, 09:36:48 PM
Could someone please let us know what grade level is Heroic Polonaise (op 53 in Ab)?  Thanks.

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Re: Chopin grades 7 & 8
Reply #14 on: September 15, 2005, 12:16:22 AM
Could someone please let us know what grade level is Heroic Polonaise (op 53 in Ab)?  Thanks.

Very advanced. :P

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