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Topic: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)  (Read 2889 times)

Offline Fhugo

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Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
on: February 19, 2005, 04:06:30 PM
I just found this on ebay.com - https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4701494437&rd=1

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"Hyperion 66926, a stunning recital of a Russian composer much too little known. Disc & booklet are both in excellent condition. Thanks for yr interest.
Roslavets was the most radical of all Russian musical innovators in the early decades of the twentieth century. His so-called 'new system of tone organization' involves highly original manipulation of 'synthetic chords' and transposition throughout the twelve degrees of the chromatic scale. As for so many composers, the genre of the piano miniature became Roslavets' chosen vehicle for much of this experimentation.

The pieces on this recording span much of the composer's mature career, from the Three Compositions of 1914 to the Sonata No 5 of 1923 (the three Sonatas presented here are numbered 1, 2 and 5 - Nos 3 and 4 are lost). The Three tudes are among the most daunting of piano music around, using as many four staves at moments of emotional climax.

(As a point of reference, Roslavets' piano music may best be compared to the later works of his compatriot Scriabin - Hamelin goes so far as to say 'Scriabin on acid'!)"

Has anyone heard this composer works? Im really quite interested... Any information welcome!

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #1 on: February 19, 2005, 04:11:59 PM
I have that cd and I think it's wonderful music. The music sounds kind of similar to Scriabin's, but tonality and complex rythms get taken to their limits even more in Roslavets' music. I'd definately buy it if you like Scriabin.

Roslavets' works for violin and piano and piano trios are also great.

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #2 on: February 19, 2005, 04:48:43 PM
  He's an excellent composer; I particularly enjoy his Cello Sonata.

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #3 on: February 19, 2005, 04:55:27 PM
  He's an excellent composer; I particularly enjoy his Cello Sonata.

koji (STSD)

Do you have the Pergamenschikow-Gililov recording?

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #4 on: February 19, 2005, 06:04:53 PM
and also - if you like scriabin, check out feinberg(who was also a great pianist, famous for his bach)
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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #5 on: February 19, 2005, 06:39:50 PM


Do you have the Pergamenschikow-Gililov recording?

  No, a friend of mine (Mark Kosower) has performed it in several concerts.

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #6 on: February 19, 2005, 06:46:04 PM


  No, a friend of mine (Mark Kosower) has performed it in several concerts.

koji (STSD)

Nice. Are there any recordings available perhaps?

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #7 on: February 19, 2005, 08:01:30 PM
thanks for the tips, Ill search for the sonata aswell. Now about the feinberg, you mean samuil right lenny? Which of his sonatas are worth listening to (do you have a pick)? Im a subscriber of naxos internet radio service (yay for TotalRecorder XD), meaning Ive got access to his 12 sonatas, just no time to listen to all - must filter the rest of the naxos site first.

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #8 on: February 19, 2005, 08:17:49 PM
as with any other composer, i advise to listen to listen to them in order.

i havent listened to the naxos recordings, how are they?
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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #9 on: February 20, 2005, 03:12:54 PM
you mean how they are in general? There are some fantastic Historical recordings, alongisde the sub-label Marco Polo (exploring unknown repertoire) which makes up for the eventual Idil Biret audition ;/

now about the feinberg in particular, sonata no. 1 took my fancy, the melody sounds very contemporary, and the piano playing is not that bad either. Thanks for the tip lenny, Ill look more into it.

- if you want the file im most inclined to email it to you. pm moi.

fhugo

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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #10 on: February 26, 2005, 01:51:43 PM
I strongly recommend the recording of Feinberg's sonatas by Christophe Sirodeau and Nikolaos Salmanatos on BIS. Sirodeau is a good friend of mine but I heard a recording of his before we actually met so I may not be that biased. The sonatas 1-8, and nos.1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 are very good in particular. The others were written when Feinberg had simplified his style somewhat (as many composers did in the 30s and 40s after more modernist beginnings such as Bartok and Szymanowski), but are still pretty good, the ninth being impressive. I've played nos. 1, 2, 6 and 7; I played the Sixth (possibly the best) in the last Raritaten der Klaviermusiks at Husum last August. Feinberg, although inheriting certain facets of Scriabin's style (he actually played to Scriabin as a very young man, and Scriabin thought Feinberg's interpretation of his 4th Sonata the best he had heard), is by an large a more interesting and original composer than Roslavets, in my opinion. Christophe has made a very interesting Feinberg page at something like skfe.com, also dedicated also to Skalkottas. Have a look!
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Re: Nikolay Roslavets? (supposed scriabin breed)
Reply #11 on: February 27, 2005, 10:19:36 PM
I played his Deux Poemes years ago.  Definitely a neglected composer that deserves more attention.

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